tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post115479575594480256..comments2023-10-28T03:14:44.519-07:00Comments on Calhouns Can(n)ons: NewsstandGreghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04099049885765768069noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1155785882611247152006-08-16T20:38:00.000-07:002006-08-16T20:38:00.000-07:00Hey, old BAG!You talk a lot, but everything you sa...Hey, old BAG!<BR/><BR/>You talk a lot, but everything you say is BS!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1155302459495401562006-08-11T06:20:00.000-07:002006-08-11T06:20:00.000-07:00Hi Mike,Sure. I was mistaken. The CSD was able to ...Hi Mike,<BR/><BR/>Sure. I was mistaken. <BR/><BR/>The CSD was able to get insurance (at double the cost of last year's policy.) So the doors are staying open...for a while longer.<BR/><BR/>Regards, Richard LeGrosAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1155268309994086232006-08-10T20:51:00.000-07:002006-08-10T20:51:00.000-07:00To Mr. Legross, Can you explain why your comment a...To Mr. Legross,<BR/> Can you explain why your comment about the CSD closing it's doors at the beginning of July was so erronious?<BR/> Thanks, Mike GreenMike Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14883036796650379771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1155267614851241142006-08-10T20:40:00.000-07:002006-08-10T20:40:00.000-07:00Im still trying to work this out as a compliment o...Im still trying to work this out as a compliment or an insult, <BR/> Publickworks pontificated:<BR/> "Mike, I've known lots of hacks. You're not a hack, I'm much more of a hack than thou."<BR/> <BR/> Uh?Mike Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14883036796650379771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1155266901051050982006-08-10T20:28:00.000-07:002006-08-10T20:28:00.000-07:00BWA HA HA HA! Do you suppose that the bids will co...BWA HA HA HA! Do you suppose that the bids will come in 40% over estimate?<BR/> <BR/> It's going to be a political decision.<BR/> <BR/> The sexiest plan will win!<BR/><BR/> "Cost is a "trickey" problem"<BR/> <BR/> Philistenes indeed!Mike Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14883036796650379771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1155232936247023652006-08-10T11:02:00.000-07:002006-08-10T11:02:00.000-07:00When I wrote "Furthermore, they seem to have negle...When I wrote <I>"Furthermore, they seem to have neglected to include reasonable estimates of the cost to replace septic tanks"</I> Ann replied <I>"Uh, if I'm not mistaken, the cost Ripley listed INCLUDED replacing 95% of all the tanks. INCLUDED it in the final tab. Am I missing something here?"</I>.<BR/><BR/>You are right that they included costs to replace 95% of the septic tanks. It is really interesting that the Ripley team thinks that one can install a brand-spankin'-new septic tank for just about the exact cost the previous CSD estimated would be the cost of decommissioning the old tanks and hooking up to the gravity sewer. Let's see ... one job involves a whole lot more work than the other but they are estimated to cost the same. Either the previous board was dramatically overestimating the costs to homeowners (and they certainly had no reason to do so) or the Ripley plan dramatically underestimates their costs. Having looked over their cost estimates I do have to say that they seem very low to me. (They estimated the MWH gravity system to cost $3000/household to decommission a tank and tie into the collection system but they estimated the cost of decommissioning, connection + new tank + controllers plus labor to install the new tank at about $6000. What is funny is that they estimate the tank itself to cost $2000 and the controllers to cost $1800 and that already pushes them over $6800 ... somehow they were not playing fair. Oh yeah, they also appear to have left out labor costs to instal the new tanks.) Thus the statement that they didn't include <B>realistic</B> cost estimates.<BR/><BR/>I would guess that rather than $6000 it would cost a minimum of $8-10k per household to do the job. After all ... workers don't work for free and it won't be cheaper to decommission a tank if done by Ripley folks than by MWH folks. In any case, the cost just increased by about $15M.<BR/><BR/>Fudge a little here, fudge a little there and pretty soon we're talking about really large differences.<BR/><BR/>I am not claiming that Ripley or his team intentionally tried to mislead, but I do find it really ironic that within just Tech report #4 they overestimate the cost of a job if it's associated with TriW but underestimate the cost of the same job if it's associated with their plan.<BR/><BR/>Maybe they're trying to get more business ...<BR/><BR/>Did Chuck who read the TriW documents so very thoroughly read these reports before they started talking about how much cheaper the Ripley plan is?Shark Inlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07308339749797881391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1155135404339052352006-08-09T07:56:00.000-07:002006-08-09T07:56:00.000-07:00Publicworks sez:"Awesome report, Ann. .... I hear ...Publicworks sez:"Awesome report, Ann. .... I hear The Trib needs a new Los Osos reporter. I nominate you"<BR/><BR/>I have to disagree. I just don't see Ann as a reporter. I have yet to be convinced she can look at a story, how shall I say it, antiseptically."<BR/><BR/>Let me say it AGAIN: I write an OPINION COLUMN on the OPINION PAGE of the Bay News. Been doing that since 1991. OPINION COLUMNISTS are different from REPORTERS. But credible OPINION COLUMNISTS still have to have credibility, which is based on not making stuff up, or lying, or falsifying "facts," or whatever else causes them to lose credibility. You can disagree with their conclusions, but it's silly to critize them for . . . having and expressing and OPINION.<BR/><BR/>Inlet sez:"Furthermore, they seem to have neglected to include reasonable estimates of the cost to replace septic tanks."<BR/><BR/>Uh, if I'm not mistaken, the cost Ripley listed INCLUDED replacing 95% of all the tanks. INCLUDED it in the final tab. Am I missing something here? <BR/><BR/>Spectator sez:"Thereafter for the property owners are costs of any system, and these are monthly costs. And also POTENTIAL costs such as state water, should we run out if conservation measures do not work.<BR/><BR/>All is not as simple as it seems. I just want a viable system at the least cost, and do not care where it is. But I will be skeptical and look to unintended consequences. I am really concerned that the staff of the CCRWQCB wants this done fast and without nitrate greater than water quality standards. I am tired at looking at the scar that was to be our sewer project. We will see what happens."<BR/><BR/>One of the things I hope the community will pay attention to is OM&R costs. A day before, I think, the Ripley presentation, PG&E went to the PUC to ask for across the board rate increases for electricity. This becomes especially crucial for long term costs to the community. Which is why Ripley's kwh/acre feet is extremely interesting.<BR/><BR/>PG13 sez:"Ron > Awesome report, Ann. .... I hear The Trib needs a new Los Osos reporter. I nominate you.<BR/><BR/>How do I second that nomination? Ann, is this something you might be interested in? I think you would make a most excellent Los Osos reporter. I'd even buy the rag just to read your column. I'll presume to speak for many of us. We'd hate to lose you and this blog ..... but, as I've mentioned before, life is much more than sewers. Why not? Please let us know if there is anything this blogsphere can do to support you in this quest."<BR/><BR/>Work for the Tribune? I started writing my column at the request of Bill Morem at the Sun Bulletin (owned by the Tribune.) The editor then attempted to censor one of my columns (I was busy sticking pins into the Hideous San Luis School Board for their appalling Dr. Ed Denton-driven policies and wasted $$$$$ & etc). Since the attempt to shut me up had NO basis (I wasn't being liableous, slanderous or any other legitimate thing, just rightfully pointing out the lack of clothing on the various School Board Emperors) I immediately resigned and trotted over the the Bay News. In all the years since, the Bay News has NEVER attempted to censor anything I wrote to protect their buddies (on the school board, for example) or for any other political reason. <BR/><BR/>Does anybody out there think for a moment that the Trib would run my columns with the same censor-free policy in place? Right. Bwahahahahah.<BR/><BR/>Well, so long as the Bay News stays in business, and I continue to have the time and energy to try to keep up with this blogsite, we can all keep nattering away. I can only hope that everyone take a deep breath, keep a sharp eye out, and hopefully THIS time, we can avoid the built-in train wreck that sent the original Faster! Better! Cheaper! project off the cliff -- a guaranteed disater that was set in motion from day one. Please God, maybe we can avoid repeating history all over again??? Well, that will depend on the community WAKING UP and SHOWING UP.Churadogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05362538114791652208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1155135296026299322006-08-09T07:54:00.000-07:002006-08-09T07:54:00.000-07:00Publicworks sez:"Awesome report, Ann. .... I hear ...Publicworks sez:"Awesome report, Ann. .... I hear The Trib needs a new Los Osos reporter. I nominate you"<BR/><BR/>I have to disagree. I just don't see Ann as a reporter. I have yet to be convinced she can look at a story, how shall I say it, antiseptically."<BR/><BR/>Let me say it AGAIN: I write an OPINION COLUMN on the OPINION PAGE of the Bay News. Been doing that since 1991. OPINION COLUMNISTS are different from REPORTERS. But credible OPINION COLUMNISTS still have to have credibility, which is based on not making stuff up, or lying, or falsifying "facts," or whatever else causes them to lose credibility. You can disagree with their conclusions, but it's silly to critize them for . . . having and expressing and OPINION.<BR/><BR/>Inlet sez:"Furthermore, they seem to have neglected to include reasonable estimates of the cost to replace septic tanks."<BR/><BR/>Uh, if I'm not mistaken, the cost Ripley listed INCLUDED replacing 95% of all the tanks. INCLUDED it in the final tab. Am I missing something here? <BR/><BR/>Spectator sez:"Thereafter for the property owners are costs of any system, and these are monthly costs. And also POTENTIAL costs such as state water, should we run out if conservation measures do not work.<BR/><BR/>All is not as simple as it seems. I just want a viable system at the least cost, and do not care where it is. But I will be skeptical and look to unintended consequences. I am really concerned that the staff of the CCRWQCB wants this done fast and without nitrate greater than water quality standards. I am tired at looking at the scar that was to be our sewer project. We will see what happens."<BR/><BR/>One of the things I hope the community will pay attention to is OM&R costs. A day before, I think, the Ripley presentation, PG&E went to the PUC to ask for across the board rate increases for electricity. This becomes especially crucial for long term costs to the community. Which is why Ripley's kwh/acre feet is extremely interesting.<BR/><BR/>PG13 sez:"Ron > Awesome report, Ann. .... I hear The Trib needs a new Los Osos reporter. I nominate you.<BR/><BR/>How do I second that nomination? Ann, is this something you might be interested in? I think you would make a most excellent Los Osos reporter. I'd even buy the rag just to read your column. I'll presume to speak for many of us. We'd hate to lose you and this blog ..... but, as I've mentioned before, life is much more than sewers. Why not? Please let us know if there is anything this blogsphere can do to support you in this quest."<BR/><BR/>Work for the Tribune? I started writing my column at the request of Bill Morem at the Sun Bulletin (owned by the Tribune.) The editor then attempted to censor one of my columns (I was busy sticking pins into the Hideous San Luis School Board for their appalling Dr. Ed Denton-driven policies and wasted $$$$$ & etc). Since the attempt to shut me up had NO basis (I wasn't being liableous, slanderous or any other legitimate thing, just rightfully pointing out the lack of clothing on the various School Board Emperors) I immediately resigned and trotted over the the Bay News. In all the years since, the Bay News has NEVER attempted to censor anything I wrote to protect their buddies (on the school board, for example) or for any other political reason. <BR/><BR/>Does anybody out there think for a moment that the Trib would run my columns with the same censor-free policy in place? Right. Bwahahahahah.<BR/><BR/>Well, so long as the Bay News stays in business, and I continue to have the time and energy to try to keep up with this blogsite, we can all keep nattering away. I can only hope that everyone take a deep breath, keep a sharp eye out, and hopefully THIS time, we can avoid the built-in train wreck that sent the original Faster! Better! Cheaper! project off the cliff -- a guaranteed disater that was set in motion from day one. Please God, maybe we can avoid repeating history all over again??? Well, that will depend on the community WAKING UP and SHOWING UP.Churadogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05362538114791652208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1155106932058925812006-08-09T00:02:00.000-07:002006-08-09T00:02:00.000-07:00Thanks for the kind support Mike. I most certainl...Thanks for the kind support Mike. I most certainly appreciate it. I don't think I've ever written so much in my life as I have recently on this blog. It's turning out to be wonderful therapy for me. And I enjoy the company. You're all good eggs. Even the rotten ones ;-) Thanks for inviting me to join this merry band of odd fellows and gals. <BR/><BR/>publicworks > <I> I have to disagree. I just don't see Ann as a reporter. I have yet to be convinced she can look at a story, how shall I say it, antiseptically. </I><BR/><BR/>OK, yeah, now that you put it that way I gotta agree with you yet again. You're right, Ann's skills would be wasted on antiseptic reporting. And that would be a shame. She is a columnist and a most excellent wordsmith. And I suppose she has a schtik. I wouldn't know but I'll take your word for it. Is there a yiddish word for striped day-glo socks? I love good columnists too. My favorite is Ellen Goodman. But please don't call her a liberal hack from Massachusetts. To stick her on the same spectrum as Ann Coulter seems unconscionable. <BR/><BR/>> <I>That's what's great about the internet, you have a veritable plethora to choose from - but only us fortunate ones in the South Bay have Ann as our own.</I><BR/><BR/>Amen. This whole sewer thing would be soooooo much more painful without her.*PG-13https://www.blogger.com/profile/14900054935763648975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1155097544164626422006-08-08T21:25:00.000-07:002006-08-08T21:25:00.000-07:00Ann Coulter: Conservative "Hack" James Carville...Ann Coulter: Conservative "Hack" <BR/> <BR/> James Carville: Liberal "Hack"<BR/><BR/> Mike, I've known lots of hacks. You're not a hack, I'm much more of a hack than thou.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1155095899756660562006-08-08T20:58:00.000-07:002006-08-08T20:58:00.000-07:00I take offence that Molly Ivens is a "Hack" An opi...I take offence that Molly Ivens is a "Hack"<BR/> An opinionated collumnist to be sure, <BR/> But published and well read!<BR/> I'm a Hack and I know it!<BR/> Who are you to cast stones?Mike Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14883036796650379771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1155094733235780302006-08-08T20:38:00.000-07:002006-08-08T20:38:00.000-07:00Be patient Mike, 2010 is not so far away.Be patient Mike,<BR/><BR/> 2010 is not so far away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1155094643027676562006-08-08T20:37:00.000-07:002006-08-08T20:37:00.000-07:00"Awesome report, Ann. .... I hear The Trib needs a..."Awesome report, Ann. .... I hear The Trib needs a new Los Osos reporter. I nominate you"<BR/><BR/> I have to disagree. I just don't see Ann as a reporter. I have yet to be convinced she can look at a story, how shall I say it, antiseptically. <BR/><BR/> Ann's a columnist, she has a schtik. Reminiscent of Molly Ivens, the liberal hack from Texas.<BR/><BR/> I love columnists (left or right, sports or gossip), and usually I hate them waaaaay too much initially as I scream at their biases and tendencies - so seemingingly unreporterish. But as time goes on, they provide that reassuring quality of consistancy. And the ones you most disagree with force you to examine your own ideas. <BR/><BR/> Besides, they are easy targets to let stream off at, and no matter how wrong Ann might be, her command of the language can bring one down off a perch in no time.<BR/><BR/> That's what's great about the internet, you have a veritable plethora to choose from - but only us fortunate ones in the South Bay have Ann as our own.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1155093977019625612006-08-08T20:26:00.000-07:002006-08-08T20:26:00.000-07:00To the most esteemable PG-13. Concerning having an...To the most esteemable PG-13.<BR/> Concerning having an anonymous identity:<BR/> Bunk!<BR/> Jon finaly saw it,<BR/> Publickworks will too (if he want's to collect, that is)<BR/> Sharkey, I'll bet some day soon or never.<BR/> Ann, Ron , Jon and I would welcome you!I'm sure!<BR/> I've been reading some Hemmingway lately, Not that it's any good, on the contrary I think he sucks, but I could not shake the feeling of great prose, and the posts of Jon about Panama, well, that kept me riveted!<BR/> You write so well! TAKE CREDIT!<BR/> A great fan, Mike Green.Mike Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14883036796650379771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1155085099910378862006-08-08T17:58:00.000-07:002006-08-08T17:58:00.000-07:00Anon > Gail Mcpherson, in my opinion one of the na...Anon > <I>Gail Mcpherson, in my opinion one of the nastiest players in this saga of nasty players, said at the last meeting that the current board ran on the platform of 1)moving the sewer from Tri-W and 2) looking at an alternative project, and that by selling Tri-W, they would have succeeded in their promises. She made it that simple, and I guess that simple it is. Win at any cost. </I><BR/><BR/>Another Anon > <I>On the other hand, the new board is just considering selling Tri-W to in order to pay the state back the SRF money the state so desperately wants back. If the state didn't want the SRF money back, I don't think the sale would even be up for discussion with the new board. Bottom line is: new board has not sold Tri-W and so far has not adopted the scorched earth policy of the previous board. Big difference.</I><BR/><BR/>Whether they can or not, whatever their purposes, it's still ugly and stinky and way too much focus is being spent angsting over selling Tri-W. This really needs to be taken off the table and those who want to sell it should just admit they'd like to but can't and then we can get on with it. Is this really a dead issue? Or might still some terrible ugliness yet unfold. I guess I'm paranoid of zebras with spots.<BR/><BR/>Anon > <I>Why didn't Richard LeGros work this hard when he was on the CSD and also Chair of the Finance Committee. Most of the time on TV he appeared comatose. You could have put a car test dummy in his seat and got a better response.</I><BR/><BR/>I gotta admit this passed through my mind too. Giving RLG the benefit he deserves sitting at a front table through so many meetings is a coma inducing exercise. Could any of us pass that test? Still, we seem to be getting more good data from him recently than ever before. Maybe he couldn't speak so freely before. I wish he did, too bad he didn't. <BR/><BR/>RLG . <I> Lastly, why not be honest and sign your blog with your name instead of being a slinking anon who huffs and puffs jibberish?</I><BR/><BR/>I used to be a lurker. I read this blog for a long time before I finally decided to post and then I posted a few comments as Anon. Nothing much. Certainly nothing very caustic or accusatory. Just my thoughts. And I was quickly called out. Given the nature of blogging and this blog in particular one can't say much without crossing another. That's cool. It's the nature of the medium. One of its better aspects really. Still, a part of the beauty of blogging is blog personality. We are what we blog! And what we blog needs no relevancy or connectivity with the other parts of our life. Our entries become our electronic personae. I can't type fast enough to chat so I'm doomed to blogging. Blogging allows for more introspection and thoughtful development though. Or maybe I'm just a very slow thinker. It is a weird and unique kind of fun, isn't it? Much warmer than television. But Anon's are missing out on the best part. An e-nom de plume provides important fabric to these threads. Too many Anon's dilute the brew. I was encouraged to come out and I'm glad I did. So I gotta encourage others to come out too. Of course, all the really good names are already taken ;-) *PG-13 is so lame but that's the best I could do. Since then I've discovered some helpful Pen Name Generators. Man, I could do sooooo much better now. I mean, with a really cool name and equal anonymity, why not? Check some of these out:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.dwheeler.com/totro.html" REL="nofollow"> Totro </A> > Random name generator based on number of syllables. Make 'em as weird and as long as you wish. <BR/><A HREF="http://www.wise-women.org/tutorials/js1/sillynames.html" REL="nofollow"> What's Your Silly Name? </A> A couple of mine came up Doofus Lizardtush and Slimy Hamsterfanny. Did I say I think *PG-13 is lame?<BR/><A HREF="http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~pound/fsnames.html" REL="nofollow"> Feng Shui: </A> Get a great list of feng shui names here. Very Los Osos.<BR/><A HREF="http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~pound/pokethulhu.html" REL="nofollow"> Pokethulhu: </A> Never played Pokethulhu but the names are totally cool. How do you beat Zo-Bok (dark humanoid snake) or Slimokoff (slimy gasball) or Vilevomit (vomitous plant-thing)? Aren't these all perfect sewerville names?<BR/><A HREF="http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~pound/sfng.html" REL="nofollow"> Random Fnatsy Names: </A> An ever-changing list of fantasy names worthy of Middle Earth. Tolkein, eat your heart out. <BR/><BR/>Many of these (and dozen's of other) name generators can be found on <A HREF="http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~pound/" REL="nofollow"> Chris Pound's Language Machines </A> website. Definitely worth a visit.<BR/><BR/>Lastly, least this slip by without further comment. <BR/><BR/>Ron > <I>Awesome report, Ann. .... I hear The Trib needs a new Los Osos reporter. I nominate you.</I><BR/><BR/>How do I second that nomination? Ann, is this something you might be interested in? I think you would make a most excellent Los Osos reporter. I'd even buy the rag just to read your column. I'll presume to speak for many of us. We'd hate to lose you and this blog ..... but, as I've mentioned before, life is much more than sewers. Why not? Please let us know if there is anything this blogsphere can do to support you in this quest.<BR/><BR/>Happy Sailing.*PG-13https://www.blogger.com/profile/14900054935763648975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1155049525523253772006-08-08T08:05:00.000-07:002006-08-08T08:05:00.000-07:00I know, Mike, That's why I responded tongue in che...I know, Mike,<BR/><BR/> That's why I responded tongue in cheek.<BR/><BR/> A one man bike race, and the cyclist is on testosterone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1155045418482925362006-08-08T06:56:00.000-07:002006-08-08T06:56:00.000-07:00Publickworks, my math was totaly toung in cheek, I...Publickworks, my math was totaly toung in cheek, I was illuminating the Non bid reality of TriW, about as competitive as a one man bike race. I wonder what the bids would have been had the project not been under so much political pressure?Mike Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14883036796650379771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1155013446953764902006-08-07T22:04:00.000-07:002006-08-07T22:04:00.000-07:00Spectator, First of all, you are incorrect about t...Spectator,<BR/><BR/> First of all, you are incorrect about the effluent at Tri-W being drinking water quality. It is full tertiary, but not drinking water quality.<BR/><BR/> This all boils down to three things:<BR/><BR/>1) Will the RWQCB grant a discharge permit on irrigated land with secondary treated water. NO ONE on a blog or at the CSD can answer that question - it'll come from the waterboard. By all means, if we can get away with secondary treatment, that would be nice, the energy costs go WAAAAAY down.<BR/><BR/>2) Time, how fast can the Ripley plan be implemented? - if it's an 8 year delay, it's unacceptible - build Tri-W, and then you can still put a pond out there 10 years down the road if necessary.<BR/><BR/>3) Does the new plan actually improve water yields??<BR/><BR/>Those three questions must be answered. We may have to wait for the County to find those answers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1155010603003320272006-08-07T21:16:00.000-07:002006-08-07T21:16:00.000-07:00Mike, Nice math skills: 40% overbid +15% over ov...Mike,<BR/><BR/> Nice math skills: 40% overbid +15% over overbid = 55%.<BR/><BR/> What if, what if, what if. What if they were overbid, and the County re-bids and saves 20%. Is Ripley's use of an old project 'overbid' for a comparison vs. an engineers estimate valid?? Shouldn't it be engineers estimates vs. engineers estimates for fair play. Or should Ripley have 'overbid' their estimates, so we could have a level 'overbidding' playing field, because Los Osos is such a mess we should always assume we'll get overbids.<BR/><BR/> Kapich???<BR/><BR/> Or maybe, just maybe, having County do this will get a respectable bidding process. At least in theory.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1155006653486520902006-08-07T20:10:00.000-07:002006-08-07T20:10:00.000-07:00Spectator speculated: "One can be assured that ANY...Spectator speculated:<BR/> "One can be assured that ANY system will have cost overruns, and they usually will be about 15%. It has been a practice for contractors to underbid a government job, get the job, and make up the difference later."<BR/> WOW! does that mean the bids on TriW were 55% over estimate and not the 40% bandied about?<BR/> What would that do to Richard's and Sharkey's spread sheets?<BR/> By the way, thanks for the effort you two, but you may just be urinating against a hurricane here.<BR/> If Ripley sells it to the county and the "Water Gods" tire of their prosecution, then Sam's plan will go STEP <BR/> Cost is a "trickey" problem, especialy to politicians.<BR/> Ya, we may bear the burden, but at least the deed will be done!Mike Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14883036796650379771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1154995361332878872006-08-07T17:02:00.000-07:002006-08-07T17:02:00.000-07:00Hi Anon above (4:46 PM),The issue here is the cost...Hi Anon above (4:46 PM),<BR/><BR/>The issue here is the cost of building a sewer for Los Osos. I hope you take the time to review the cost figures I have generated. If you can see flaws in the cost analysis, please let me know.<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, playing the "shame and blame game" by attacking the messenger (me) is very silly and not pertinent to the issues facing Los Osos.<BR/><BR/>Sincerely, Richard LeGrosAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1154994665412337062006-08-07T16:51:00.000-07:002006-08-07T16:51:00.000-07:00Hi Anon above (4:15 PM),I did work "this" hard whe...Hi Anon above (4:15 PM),<BR/><BR/>I did work "this" hard when I was on the Board an chaired the finance committee. If I looked bored it was because I was; as I had to put up with a lot of nonesense (such as your comments.)<BR/><BR/>Lastly, why not be honest and sign your blog with your name instead of being a slinking anon who huffs and puffs jibberish? <BR/><BR/>Sincerely, Richard LeGrosAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1154994403393086332006-08-07T16:46:00.000-07:002006-08-07T16:46:00.000-07:00Last time I checked, old CSD destroyed Tri-W just ...Last time I checked, old CSD destroyed Tri-W just before a recall election. That's was irreponsible and tragic and RLG helped make it happen. <BR/><BR/>On the other hand, the new board is just considering selling Tri-W to in order to pay the state back the SRF money the state so desperately wants back. If the state didn't want the SRF money back, I don't think the sale would even be up for discussion with the new board. Bottom line is: new board has not sold Tri-W and so far has not adopted the scorched earth policy of the previous board. Big difference.<BR/><BR/>I also find it funny that RLG keeps talking about costs of the sewer to property owners now, but didn't seem to be bothered by the overbidding of sewer contracts for Tri-W by 40% when he was an elected official. That's hypocrisy.<BR/><BR/>Also, I heard that RLG doesn't even live in the PZ anymore. Is that true? Now, he's just a concerned citizen?<BR/><BR/>I wonder if the sewer had been sited in Cabrillo (I know not scientifically sound-but anyone can dream), would the Dreamers be as excited about a "sewer de cabrillo" if it was the cheapest solution? I think not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1154992541786678932006-08-07T16:15:00.000-07:002006-08-07T16:15:00.000-07:00Why didn't Richard LeGros work this hard when he w...Why didn't Richard LeGros work this hard when he was on the CSD and also Chair of the Finance Committee. Most of the time on TV he appeared comatose. You could have put a car test dummy in his seat and got a better response.<BR/><BR/>Don't you have a job now and what brought you to life? Is somebody slipping you something under the table.<BR/><BR/>You are a disaster.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-1154990078578494782006-08-07T15:34:00.000-07:002006-08-07T15:34:00.000-07:00AB 2701 has been fast-tracked to the Senate. (See...AB 2701 has been fast-tracked to the Senate. (See Tribune today)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com