tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post2451489797781708027..comments2023-10-28T03:14:44.519-07:00Comments on Calhouns Can(n)ons: Marley's TreeNewsstandGreghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04099049885765768069noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-34197435612963997512009-12-09T19:52:53.879-08:002009-12-09T19:52:53.879-08:00M, I suspected you were a secret gentleman, (I'...M, I suspected you were a secret gentleman, (I'm sorry if I'm assuming something regarding your gender here, Like I said, I’ve got enough to do, even though I’m a compulsive blogger, I can't justify checking your previous posts till after the 21st "The official date for the CCC") –Darnit, I’m dooin it agayn – no, you are learned and intelligent and gave good feedback, thank you.<br />Los Osos isn't hard to figure out, but, You HAVE to start with PSYCHOLOGY (Life experience just as good as book lernin')<br /> I did respond in part AGAIN on http://www.sewerwatch.blogspot.com<br />Sorry, hadn’t read your post above then.<br />This is an partial of <a href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=13700210&postID=3228875132111415217&isPopup=true" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">THAT</a> post<br /><br />Sorry Ann, this'n needs shouting from the rooftops.<br />********************************<br />Wikipedia entry for Los Osos, Tourists, take your dollars elsewhere. <br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Osos,_California" rel="NOFOLLOW" rel="nofollow">RazorRockSentinal are the links to go to when you Wikipedia “Los Osos”</a><br /><br /><br />-----------------------------------<br /><b>External links</b><br />Los Osos, California is at coordinates 35°19′21″N 120°49′53″W / 35.3225°N 120.8313°W / 35.3225; -120.8313 (Los Osos, California)Coordinates: 35°19′21″N 120°49′53″W / 35.3225°N 120.8313°W / 35.3225; -120.8313 (Los Osos, California) <br /><b>*The Razor <br />*The ROCK <br />*Los Osos Sentinel</b> <br />*2000 Census profile for Los Osos<br />==================================<br />This page was last modified on 7 December 2009 at 22:29. <br />+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<br />Could this be the revising computer ID?<br />76.175.151.132 <br />Note that the 2000 census of 14,350 individuals plays 4th fiddle to the MasterBloggers Links<br /><br />Here is the revision history- <br /> * <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Los_Osos,_California&action=history" rel="NOFOLLOW" rel="nofollow">THIS IS WHAT TOURISTS WHO WANT TO SPEND THEIR MONEY IN LOS OSOS, AND CHECK THE LINKS, SEE , BEFORE THEY RUN AWAY SCREAMING</a><br /><br />This has been going on a while.<br /><br />Everybody does something for (or to) Los Osos, in their own way.Alon Perlmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00155776897189144501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-77880424962553647892009-12-09T16:44:22.373-08:002009-12-09T16:44:22.373-08:00Alon, I hope you didn't take offense to my com...Alon, I hope you didn't take offense to my comment, because certainly none was intended. I suppose I should have said "half the time" I not sure what he is saying. Don't worry, I had the same problem when I took Psychology at Cuesta oh so long ago. I would read from one of the text and realize I had no idea what they were saying. Probably too intellectual for me.<br />Sincerely, MMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15422834300453521293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-43225413533497627512009-12-09T16:26:41.034-08:002009-12-09T16:26:41.034-08:00No. It's "anonymous" and so has no c...<i>No. It's "anonymous" and so has no credibility, being "anonymous" and it's irresponsible and raving.<br />- Ann Calhoun</i>Aaron Ochs - Managing Editor of The ROCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10955571563734090743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-41870073162501426312009-12-09T15:56:52.574-08:002009-12-09T15:56:52.574-08:00...when one uses grownup statements such as "......when one uses grownup statements such as "with the intent to deceive and slander", they should realize how childish they sound when not backed up with any recognized credential, education or legal experience...not to mention supportive facts... <br /><br />...just another form of an individual trying to sound authoritative and threatening... <br /><br />y'all need to do a lot better than that Aaron... maybe try a basic general ed course of study at Cuesta as it's doubtful you could even get into Cal Poly...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06093426896476666691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-72538865724543518982009-12-09T15:08:41.974-08:002009-12-09T15:08:41.974-08:00"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over...<i>"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."<br />-- Albert Einstein</i><br /><br />There are quite a few people who repeat the same rhetoric over and over again without documentation, without verifiable information or a clear purpose. Instead, they berate.<br /><br />Alabamasue (or Mimi Kalland, who I've never met or talked to... so what's with the beef?), misinterpreted my sentiments about my former workplace. Well, for those who want to read about my take on the subject, <a href="http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/2008/10/04/aftermath/" rel="nofollow">click here ("Aftermath", October 4, 2008)</a>. For those who don't want to read it, I'll break it down with one sentence. It wasn't paranoia.<br /><br />I'm going to provide an anecdote that hasn't been discussed before. This will give some perspective.<br /><br />In April 2007, before I opened the store, I checked voicemails from the corporate offices. One voicemail was from one of the higher-ups who mentioned me by name, saying that I've received "plenty" of complaints. Reason? "Local political affiliation." <br /><br />The next day, my supervisor spoke to me about "reports" that I promoted The ROCK at the workplace, which I didn't. These reports and complaints were made by the anonymous with the intent to deceive and slander -- and that's when I said nothing. That's when I had my hands up and said, "I don't want any trouble," but some of you persisted and here I am. Now you have a problem on your hands -- and the best way to deal with it is to speak and post truthfully. It's <b>that</b> simple.Aaron Ochs - Managing Editor of The ROCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10955571563734090743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-61990808038206314202009-12-09T07:20:17.039-08:002009-12-09T07:20:17.039-08:00Good Morning Ladies and Gentlemen, and Aaron....
...Good Morning Ladies and Gentlemen, and Aaron....<br /><br />Over the course of the past 4 or 5 years this opinion blog has bounced along and has never made any difference in any decision made by the BOS, the Coastal Commission, Fish and Wildlife, and most notably, the California Water Board... <br /><br />So I wonder did all the uproar over the community's elected CSD Directors decision to build a waste water treatment facility on the Tri-W site ever accomplish anything...??? Afterall, if there never was, or will be, a "perfect" sewer, then will all the tremendous additional cost to build another less than "perfect" sewer really have accomplished anything...??? There are those who have argued that the wwtf was too small, blocked some view of the ugly trailer park, or they just don't want a sewer in "downtown"....but they never produced any "Plan", only words and lawsuits... They never produced that "perfect" sewer....!!! Couldn't even get agreement amoung themselves as to what the "perfect" sewer for Los Osos might have been... and of course there are still those who believe in the magic sands and don't think the Water Board could make the decision against our septic systems...they really don't like any governement that would make them part of a society of laws... <br /><br />There are also those who believe that the past Directors did produce a very legal and fully permitted "Plan"... At least they had a "Plan" and yes, it could be argued that it wasn't "perfect' either....<br /><br />So, what is the real reason for all these words that mean absolutely nothing...???? If the Tri-W project had gone forward, we would have a working sewer by now and by all accounts, costing much less than the mega-sewer being planned for somewhere outside of Los Osos... <br /><br />Is there any reason that the WWTF couldn't be located in Los Osos...??? Why are we spending so many meaningless words in a war over a sewer for this community...??? <br /><br />Will any sewer be "perfect' enough for the Los Osos generated crap...??? And ultimately, will we ever do anything less than "perfect" to begin to clean up our own fouled drinking water... Guess we'll still be blogging when or if there really is global warming with the Pacific covering Los Osos and sea lions haul out in Cabrillo Heights (or Beach)...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06093426896476666691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-27747266380779511692009-12-09T00:00:06.038-08:002009-12-09T00:00:06.038-08:00“M” Thanks for the honorable mention. You say you ...“M” Thanks for the honorable mention. You say you goggled Los Osos sewer in general recently, and later in your post that (M)” i'm <b>never</b> quite sure what he (Alon) is saying.<br />I vaguely recollect you in the past agreeing with what I say. <br />I am quite busy right now on personal items and on items that are in my mind (and some that can’t be argued by others either) to be good for Los Osos. So I can’t spend time confirming this, and reviewing your past posts.<br />I appreciate honest feedback, and in your past posts I have mostly found you to be honest, though very partisan and critical of others but not to the extent of being overly rude, considering you are anonymous. And in any case not less disrespectful than an average of all posters who have taken one side or another.<br /><br />So I don’t understand what you are saying. Is it the language I use, or are you concerned with my affiliations.<br />I’ve said many things in many venues. The blogs are not where I go to make a difference. In my Public addresses; Some was addressed to experts who had no problem understanding. Yet, left members of public puzzled.<br />I rarely work from a script. Occasionally I am unclear, detractors can cherry-pick. Look at the total volume and you will find plenty of Laser beam clarity, plainly stated, to get my measure. I frequently use metaphors (Around the time the TAC was forming I told the CSD “The CCC is the only animal with longer teeth than the water board”. I probably should have also told the County, they would had got it, easily, they are now dealing with that animal.<br />I suggest you google TAC LOWWP Perlman (and Pearlman)<br />Or “California Coastal Commission” Perlman, SWQCB, Rwqcb3, Parks etc.<br /><br />Pick some one you whose “clarity” you like, see how they show up. (Not)<br />I’m frequently original and there are several instances within that I was followed by others restating my words in their scripts. As I stated previously “maybe you’ll like my words when they come out of other people’s mouths”. Of course some times, several of the originators show up, and without conferring, say the exact same things. It’s a beautiful thing. (happened when Asalio, Duggan and myself showed up to the RWQCB and stated Salt water worse than nitrates. (January? Or last year?) This was also done by a bunch of Los Ososians on a subsequent meeting).<br /> <b>Alabamasue</b><br />I know, I’ve formally washed my hands of that “time-banditry”.<br />Nabobs of negativisem?<br />Whackey as it is, I do detect a pesonal integrity in the sentinal's belief system (not an endorsement) Any project this expensive, leading to unbearable financial strains is going to cause these reactions in honest people, and financial leaches or simpleton knowitalls, or ego parasites will quickly converge on the innocent.<br />And so the world (word verification;) chernsAlon Perlmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00155776897189144501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-17181575130960451702009-12-08T22:25:10.667-08:002009-12-08T22:25:10.667-08:00Hi alabamasue!
Hilarious observation! This "...Hi alabamasue!<br /><br />Hilarious observation! This "Sentinel" person hasn't actually done this before I'd say! Doubt we'll get a press release as to amount of donations!<br /><br />Another wacky day in Los Osos!Sewertoons AKA Lynette Tornatzkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04501351678541088868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-56203793764446012072009-12-08T21:39:16.914-08:002009-12-08T21:39:16.914-08:00'Toons, Mike and Alon-
There is no point in tr...'Toons, Mike and Alon-<br />There is no point in trying to have an intelligent conversation with Aaron. He doesn't even speak the same language. The only language he knows is paranoia. As in " I worked at Hollywood Video until I noticed customers looking at me with contempt" Words to that effect. Aaron's embrace of The Sentinel is really funny. He claims to know who it is, but won't tell us. However- please send a check to some mail-drop in Vegas. You can even send it anonymously. Does that mean you send a check with all your vital info redacted ? No name, no bank routing number, no account no.alabamasuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07135144493256899864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-15171003489131122222009-12-08T20:11:52.318-08:002009-12-08T20:11:52.318-08:00Aaron, I'll repeat this. I checked out this si...Aaron, I'll repeat this. I checked out this site up to see who might be trying to bilk Los Osos citizens out of money and spending the time to put up an entire website that is trying to incite people against the County and private citizens. Apparently this does not concern you. But some snarky lines on a blog bend you out of shape.<br /><br />I was similarly engaged with investigating the veracity of the wrecklamator. I am NOT concerned about intensity of anti-sewer-ness, as that is a not issue - we ARE getting a sewer. I AM concerned that some less wary citizens will be fleeced.<br /><br />You appear to be condoning the nastiness against named citizens in the rant. You appear to condone the word "terrorist" when you slammed me for using that very word. Lines like, "This is a very evil man, a coward and a true terrorist" - and "The terrorists’ calculated Reign of Terror" -- yet not a peep from you about an entire website larded with this word!<br /><br />If those anonymous bloggers with unkind words get such a reaction from you, why nothing at all about an entire "anonymous" website full of them? Afraid if you spoke out those people would attack you next?<br /><br />Please explain how I have defamed your family? I like your mom and dad and have had very pleasant conversations with them both.<br /><br />PS -- If I were you, I'd not verbalize those wishes for luck. Your prior attacks on me make you out to be quite insincere.Sewertoons AKA Lynette Tornatzkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04501351678541088868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-33249978675493403112009-12-08T18:37:27.381-08:002009-12-08T18:37:27.381-08:00hahahaha... Aaron still speaks as if he had some c...hahahaha... Aaron still speaks as if he had some computer cop control of this blog... What a joke he is.... If he would spend half the time he does running around sewer blogging and trying to control those he doesn't happen to agree with, then he would be on his way to a college degree and possibly a job.... although it appears he would rather miss read and then make up his own version of what was said... He doesn't seem to understand the meaning of Q&F... somehow he morphed that to mean a death threat... Now that's offensive... he must have learned reading comphrehension from Joey... <br /><br />There has never been a threat.... except in the over active imagination of a youngster who has neither education or experience to understand the grownup world he hides from... I guess he doesn't read very well... <br /><br />Yes, the wantabe computer cop, what a joke... I sure wouldn't want him to burst a blood vessel in his quest to control all Los Osos blogging.... but if he does, and all over his personal opinions concerning sewer technology, law and siteing... then I would wish him a speedy Q&F recovery... (that was Quick and Full) but he'll probably just glance at my words and make up yet another version to justify his need to control....<br /><br />Sorry chum... you really should go to college and go get some real work experience... you're just a joke these days.... Q&F... Quietly and Friendly.... :-)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06093426896476666691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-41385349002262120662009-12-08T18:17:51.886-08:002009-12-08T18:17:51.886-08:00REPOST (2:57 PM)
I've decided that it's a...<b>REPOST (2:57 PM)</b><br /><br /><i>I've decided that it's a waste of my time to spell out my positions for you because you end up deliberately ignoring everything I said; you repeat the same rhetoric over and over again. I'm through with that. I'm through with you -- and I'm fairly certain that Los Osos is too.</i><br /><br /><b>In Spanish:</b><br /><br />He decidido que es un desperdicio de mi tiempo a exponer mis posiciones para usted porque usted termina ignorando deliberadamente todo lo que dije, se repite el mismo discurso que una y otra vez. He terminado con eso. He terminado con usted - y estoy bastante seguro de que Los Osos también lo es.<br /><br /><b>In "Mike"-nese</b><br /><br />Sorry Lynette, you're a stupid little, no-good lying [bleep]!!!!!!!!! It seems that only YOU don't GET it... when will you ever learn????????? EVIL CSD5, PZLDF PEOPLE LIES!!!!!!!!!!! I will repeat myself over and over again until my grandson pulls the plug from my life support!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /><br />Do I make myself clear?<br /><br /><b>This will be my final post to you (I promise) so listen up and listen good.</b><br /><br />Lynette, I'm talking about you now, not me. <br /><br />If you are going on a mission to uncover someone, you might as well take that momentum -- in pursuit of the same kind of transparency you're asking for -- and disclose everyone who has made comments that are as intense in tone as The Sentinel.<br /><br />Relevance is interpreted by others, not fact unless relevance is based on an algorithm (i.e. Google page ranking system). What matters is that I spoke to you specifically on this matter and yet you tell people the polar opposite of where I stand. This is not an issue of relevance. It's an issue of personal integrity.<br /><br />It makes me sad to see you put words in my mouth -- and while it's not defamation, it's definitely a false portrayal of what I believe... and my beliefs are readily available for everyone to see. Your depiction of me, what I stand for and what I personally believe is patently untrue. You continue to appease those who have spread as much bile as you have by labeling and defaming people. It's offensive.<br /><br />As time passes, I have a harder time responding to you because I get into this philosophical quagmire. Should I continue to respond and educate someone who has repeatedly defamed me and my family? Should I defend myself even you can't defend yourself? Now I know the answer to those questions. The answer? No.<br /><br />I wish you luck, Lynette. You're never going to win a CSD seat, but best of luck to you in anything else you do.Aaron Ochs - Managing Editor of The ROCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10955571563734090743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-39168845816035705412009-12-08T17:04:49.710-08:002009-12-08T17:04:49.710-08:00Aaron, when you make statements that admonish thos...Aaron, when you make statements that admonish those who don't speak up to condemn harsh words on the blogs because they are supposed buddies, why does that same dictum not apply to you? <br /><br />How can you tell others to do what you weasel out of doing yourself? It doesn't matter what was said at the BOS, what is relevant are the words said here.<br /><br />Aaron says, "I've never once condoned their actions." Now how would the bloggers you list above KNOW THAT, if you yourself admit, "True, I didn't go after them publicly…" Saying you "don't tolerate animosity" in a blanket statement is NOT the same. Actually, not calling it out when it happens IS the very same tacit approval you accuse us of giving.Sewertoons AKA Lynette Tornatzkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04501351678541088868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-11449924338171669492009-12-08T14:57:09.031-08:002009-12-08T14:57:09.031-08:00Excuse me Lynette,
I believe I spoke to you at a ...Excuse me Lynette,<br /><br />I believe I spoke to you at a Board of Supervisors meeting about a year ago about how I thought "Sewertoons is Looney Tunes" was totally inappropriate and out of line when they went after you. I also told you about Howie and OsosChange. Yes, I remember those people well. I've never once condoned their actions.<br /><br />True, I didn't go after them publicly, but I said repeatedly to you, to Calhoun, to her blog and on mine that I don't tolerate animosity, especially the anonymous-fueled kind. What's more saddening is that you've "mercifully forgotten" that I've made my positions clear. <br /><br />I've decided that it's a waste of my time to spell out my positions for you because you end up deliberately ignoring everything I said; you repeat the same rhetoric over and over again. I'm through with that. I'm through with you -- and I'm fairly certain that Los Osos is too.<br /><br />I had no idea excessive lying was a side effect of shingles.Aaron Ochs - Managing Editor of The ROCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10955571563734090743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-87075072885218820002009-12-08T14:40:06.451-08:002009-12-08T14:40:06.451-08:00Ann, once again I apologize for going off topic wi...Ann, once again I apologize for going off topic with my previous post. I wanted to get some feedback about the subject and I wasn't sure of another way to do it. I got just about what I expected. Mike as usual reverts everything back to the CSD5 and the PZDLF. Sewertoons goes to the scam and fraud card as usual. The Barbara Wolcott book is a coffee table piece and possible gift to friends, but the Sentinel story is a fraud and a scam. Alon, i'm never quite sure what he is saying.<br />After visiting the Sewerwatch blog I googled the Los Osos sewer and went quite deep into it. It is amazing how many different versions there are of our saga. One common thread throughout has been "suspected leaking septic tanks". Never "leaking tanks identified as source of nitrates". Never "over saturation of septic tanks". Other than sewertoons saying that, but I don't consider sewertoons an expert.<br />So I guess we just let the vermin get away with it huh?<br />Sincerely, MMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15422834300453521293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-44496963891845176352009-12-08T14:32:15.329-08:002009-12-08T14:32:15.329-08:00Gee Aaron, I guess you tacitly approved of the fou...Gee Aaron, I guess you tacitly approved of the foulmouthed Howie, as I don't recall that you had any criticism for that potty mouthed person. There were other dirt-talkers too, whose names I have mercifully forgotten, but if they were on the side of No-Sewer, or We-Shouldn't-Have-To-Pay, YOU gave them a pass.<br /><br />What you don't seem to get - or WANT to get -- is the difference between some blog postings -- and an entire website aimed at asking for MONEY to be sent to supposedly defend some mythical case by some unknown attorney. THAT is far more dangerous, than some potty language posted here.Sewertoons AKA Lynette Tornatzkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04501351678541088868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-41212241097078210792009-12-08T14:16:21.201-08:002009-12-08T14:16:21.201-08:00... right.
Mike, you once wrote that you're t...... right.<br /><br />Mike, you once wrote that you're the kind of guy that waves and says, "Hi!" to everyone in the market, but like you and many others, you put on that anonymous mask, say a bunch of things that instill fear, paranoia and anger. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CTG58jIlNA" rel="nofollow">There are people like you who do just that</a>.<br /><br />I'm not on a personal mission to "out" the anonymous. If you read what I wrote carefully, I said: if you're going to ask about the source behind The Sentinel, then in the same fashion, you might as well disclose all the identities of those who have posted anonymously in that tone.<br /><br />Oh, and it wouldn't be the wisest idea to threaten me or anyone else with the Q&F stuff. The Los Osos cops are aware of your posts and they happen to agree with my assessment of the "Q&F" rhetoric. Please don't go there.Aaron Ochs - Managing Editor of The ROCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10955571563734090743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-63865890833791174712009-12-08T12:46:47.180-08:002009-12-08T12:46:47.180-08:00Sorry Aaron, if YOU are really the Aaron, but it s...Sorry Aaron, if YOU are really the Aaron, but it seems only YOU want to out the anonymous... just another symptom of your Napoleon complex... oh well, just a q&f response to your latest mental wanderings........Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06093426896476666691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-84112929141521111912009-12-08T11:03:44.770-08:002009-12-08T11:03:44.770-08:00For the sake of argument, if some of us are going ...For the sake of argument, if some of us are going to sit down and figure out who is the anonymous that's behind The Sentinel, I would like to remind everyone here that there have been some "anonymous" who posted some rather crude material and language -- but sympathizers of the anonymous never address that either because they know who the anonymous is and they want to protect them or they'll let the anonymous propagate defamatory remarks and support them with tacit approval.<br /><br />Because Tri-W advocates have remained silent on this issue, I will bring up the names of those who got a free pass: Wonky1 (LOKahuna, SadToSay), MrsWonky, zorro69, Together (Shirley Devine), Mike (ReApprazor), alabamasue, Sandpuppy, Solomon, Realistic1, Crapkiller (Joyce Albright), 4CrapKiller (Jon Arcuni), InsideCSD (Gadfly, Thinker, Richard LeGros), Judith (Judith Reilly), MrDooley, Not2010Yet, Shark Inlet (Steve Rein), Clairevoy, LOTaxpayer, and that's a partial list.<br /><br />If you want transparency, start unraveling the identities of these fine people who slandered countless citizens of Los Osos.Aaron Ochs - Managing Editor of The ROCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10955571563734090743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-87030746903188742572009-12-08T09:01:04.681-08:002009-12-08T09:01:04.681-08:00Ann, when the site originally went up at the begin...Ann, when the site originally went up at the beginning of November, the only thing posted on it was a PDF called "Reign-of-Terror." (I don't know if it is still contained in that website.)<br /><br />Here is a quote,<br />"In 2002, I lead a movement known as The Total Recall against all five LOCSD Directors at that<br />time ( Rose Bowker, Sylvia Smith, Stan<br />Gustafson, Gordon Hensley and<br />Frank Frelier"<br /><br />Then go to:<br />http://www.smartvoter.org/2002/11/05/ca/slo/vote/salmon_t/paper1.html<br /><br />Quote from Tom Salmon:<br />"In the last six months, I spearheaded the TOTAL RECALL movement, to bring back to Los Osos residents…"<br /><br />Now why this person does not now want to claim to be part of (all of?) this website, I don't know, but being held accountable for possible fraud in asking for contributions comes to mind…Sewertoons AKA Lynette Tornatzkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04501351678541088868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-67738329974330219292009-12-08T08:10:44.473-08:002009-12-08T08:10:44.473-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06093426896476666691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-65954810318923274742009-12-08T08:10:28.364-08:002009-12-08T08:10:28.364-08:00...doesn't the TaxPayers Watch suit press for ......doesn't the TaxPayers Watch suit press for accountability of the CSD5...??? ....and haven't the CSD5 and their insurance attornies stalled for some 3 years in their effort to remain unaccountable...??? Oh well, when the latest feeble attempt to stall the current settlement "agreement", the CSD5 will finally have a chance to tell their tales of mismangement in a court... <br /><br />I would have chatted about the PZLDF lawsuit, but that suit was so screwed up, that no one knew who was being held accountable... It certainly wasn't the CSD5 and their giveaway funds for a crusade against the State.... or was it the Feds... or just who were they sueing....???? ????????? just for M...!!!!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06093426896476666691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-38476698691682462009-12-08T07:00:33.179-08:002009-12-08T07:00:33.179-08:00Toonces sez:"(although we know who wrote it)....Toonces sez:"(although we know who wrote it)."<br /><br />O.K Who wrote it? The reason why I didn't post and link it in my main blog is because it's "anonymous" and therefore the reader can't possible know how reliable the info is. As for RICO, my experience with RICO is this: RICO is used by the government when THEY want to go after some person or organization. It's a law on the books that is entirely discretionary and the government has to WANT to use it. A citizen can come in the door with mountains of evidence that fulfills all the RICO perameters and the Federal DAs will ignore it all unless they personally want to invoke it, mostly as a tool to shake down the people they're after or as a tool to flip witnesses & etc. If the Gov wants something buried or covered up, or not touched because the people in question are politically hooked up or powerful, or maybe the miscreants are government agencies who screwed up and don't want that known, then no matter how "rico-ish" it actually is, you'll never get them to invoke RICO. In short, it's one of those laws that's used for political purposes not structly legal ones. <br /><br />Aaron sez:"I've spent a good deal of time reading The Sentinel -- and to me, it was like, "Where did all of this come from?" There is a lot of information that is objective, but I can see a lot of people have ruffled feathers over the mention of a vaccine-resistant, deadly pathogen producing factory -- and then people think that bold commentary is a perfect excuse to reject all of the content."<br /><br />Too true. It keeps shooting itself in its own feet. BUT the saddest thing is, even if much of what is written is true, nothing will be done about it. Laws broken? So What? That's the tragedy of Los Osos. No real accountability, uncorrected bungling, bad science, political expediency, no real wish for doing things right or even setting things right. It's all, Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown. Followed by a shrug.Churadogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17701649330085709021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-20911075124817684122009-12-08T02:15:27.004-08:002009-12-08T02:15:27.004-08:00Nobody's getting riled over the information, j...Nobody's getting riled over the information, just wondering how a (hopefully once) rational mind comes to write "vaccine-resistant, deadly pathogen producing factory" and then NOT put their name on it while asking for money, (although we know who wrote it). <br /><br />I'm riled because it would be tragic if one person in Los Osos bought into this absurd scheme. They will still have to pay their share on the sewer.Sewertoons AKA Lynette Tornatzkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04501351678541088868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-69759285471449731462009-12-08T00:43:45.047-08:002009-12-08T00:43:45.047-08:00What's with this and donating money to the sit...What's with this and donating money to the site? It's not like you have to pay $600 to read the information on there. It's like getting riled up over The Tribune for making their archives pay-only.Aaron Ochs - Managing Editor of The ROCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10955571563734090743noreply@blogger.com