tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post4860920355749092804..comments2023-10-28T03:14:44.519-07:00Comments on Calhouns Can(n)ons: NewsstandGreghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04099049885765768069noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-19920194745899302702007-04-15T17:29:00.000-07:002007-04-15T17:29:00.000-07:00PZLDF - "Sewer neutral": Means, not for TriW and n...PZLDF - "Sewer neutral": Means, not for TriW and not for anything that the County can bring forward. By default, means that they are for nothing because the CSD is incapable of putting a project forward.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-87893579865129012342007-04-15T17:15:00.000-07:002007-04-15T17:15:00.000-07:00Naw, she would just turn that patchy red and compl...Naw, she would just turn that patchy red and complain that those it's all the past Directors faults and then she would be too tired to continue. She sure can't make it past midnight any longer. Remember having to listen to her drone on and on til 3 in the morning? Have all her fiscal mismanagement deeds caught up to her and she can't sleep with all the nightmares running around in her chunky mind?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-72629744329765823312007-04-15T16:15:00.000-07:002007-04-15T16:15:00.000-07:00Yes, please do ask! I would like to see Ms. Schic...Yes, please do ask! I would like to see Ms. Schicker fumble her way through that answer!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-91650615209151904462007-04-15T14:37:00.000-07:002007-04-15T14:37:00.000-07:00To Anon above:Why don't you attend a CSD meeting a...To Anon above:<BR/><BR/>Why don't you attend a CSD meeting and ask these questions? A lot of us would like to know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-63574522201672183052007-04-15T11:03:00.000-07:002007-04-15T11:03:00.000-07:00Those of you fighting Tri-W and or any sewer shoul...Those of you fighting Tri-W and or any sewer should be able to provide a few answers in support of your challenges. Please tell us why Gail is here fighting the water boards and not somewhere else? Why did BWS head into our community? We know how they came, it was via lawsuits that were initiated by Al Barrows and Julie Tacker and other CCLO. Where are all those people now? Where is Julia Biggs? Why did Mr.Onstott leave BWS? Why hasn't the CSD filed a claim against BWS's E&O?<BR/><BR/>These questions bear answering more than where is Roger Briggs on his vacation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-85297106434373149972007-04-15T10:50:00.000-07:002007-04-15T10:50:00.000-07:00The Tri-W or big sewer supporters are the obstruct...The Tri-W or big sewer supporters are the obstructionists. The homeowners opposed to the "big" sewer only wanted sustainable and affordable projects looked at.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-8604119329649291502007-04-15T09:20:00.000-07:002007-04-15T09:20:00.000-07:00Steve, you may be late, but you're catching up fas...Steve, you may be late, but you're catching up fast.Mike Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14883036796650379771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-79754130589322816682007-04-14T22:51:00.000-07:002007-04-14T22:51:00.000-07:00Mike,I know that I am late in the game here but .....Mike,<BR/><BR/>I know that I am late in the game here but ... when you say that actions against Pismo Beach, CMC and Morro Bay were against water treatment management and not against homeowners ... you seem to forget that in Los Osos pretty much all homeowners are running their own water treatment facilities.<BR/><BR/>Dating back over 20 years now, we've been told that our individual treatment facilities are inadequate (due to characteristics of local geology and our proximity to the neighbor's treatment facility).<BR/><BR/><BR/>You are right that the tools the RWQCB has been given by law do seem rather ill suited to deal with individual homeowners and are instead far better suited to deal with larger outfits. Unfortunately, the RWQCB has been given the mandate to deal with water quality problems and the only tools they have are those they've been given my the state law that set up the board and the process.<BR/><BR/>Even if they're doing a poor job, Mike, you've got to admit that the Los Osos obstructionists would seem to be willing to do anything to avoid putting in a sewer ... perhaps because it will cost so much. The frustrating thing is that every day of delay makes the costs rise even more.Shark Inlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07308339749797881391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-87191497521826975742007-04-14T21:41:00.000-07:002007-04-14T21:41:00.000-07:00Ask the state legislature. Progress? Ya think?Ask the state legislature. Progress? Ya think?Mike Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14883036796650379771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-36600934437018298582007-04-14T20:24:00.000-07:002007-04-14T20:24:00.000-07:00Ask Pavell, Ask Sam, Ask Lois, Ask Bruce. Ask Noel...Ask Pavell, Ask Sam, Ask Lois, Ask Bruce. Ask Noel<BR/> <BR/> My opinion has NO WEIGHT AT ALL.<BR/> <BR/> Even less than Ann Calhoun's<BR/> <BR/> I just want to be left alone to go fish, and I'm getting screwed on that end too!Mike Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14883036796650379771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-62877416727770885882007-04-14T20:14:00.000-07:002007-04-14T20:14:00.000-07:00Do you think the past 18 months could be seen as "...Do you think the past 18 months could be seen as "...reasonable likelihood of progress..."?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-41096489998189823172007-04-14T20:11:00.000-07:002007-04-14T20:11:00.000-07:00Evasive? you mean like the floating discharge requ...Evasive? you mean like the floating discharge requirements of the water board?<BR/> OK, a 218 success qualifies.<BR/> Tell me how you think the actions of the water board helps this. <BR/> Tell me how the lessons of the past three elections have modified the fossilized thinking of the water board.<BR/> Tell me how threats and posturing have WON elections in Los Osos.<BR/> Someone, please GOD hire a first year political science freshman and appoint them to the water board.Mike Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14883036796650379771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-33374831273449191792007-04-14T19:59:00.000-07:002007-04-14T19:59:00.000-07:00nope, nice try, but too evasiveBTW, isn't a 218 a ...nope, nice try, but too evasive<BR/><BR/>BTW, isn't a 218 a vehicle of reasonable compliance?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-67782489771938155762007-04-14T19:44:00.000-07:002007-04-14T19:44:00.000-07:00Enforcement should ALWAYS have some vehicle of rea...Enforcement should ALWAYS have some vehicle of reasonable compliance.<BR/> The water gods can "get on board" by putting all ACTIONS of the RCQWCB on abeyance (like Sam asked them) until such time that no reasonable likelihood of progress is foreseeable and agreed to by the county and the state.<BR/> Hows that?Mike Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14883036796650379771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-85261799969977182412007-04-14T19:22:00.000-07:002007-04-14T19:22:00.000-07:00Mike,enough tap dancing, what is your answer to th...Mike,<BR/><BR/>enough tap dancing, what is your answer to the question of enforcement <BR/><BR/>Now?<BR/><BR/>If a 218 fails?<BR/><BR/>Never?<BR/><BR/><BR/>"Get the water gods on board" what in hades does that mean?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-81389957783158032152007-04-14T18:21:00.000-07:002007-04-14T18:21:00.000-07:00"....and the CSD could be ready to put in a system..."....and the CSD could be ready to put in a system, a better system, much faster" <BR/><BR/>Now that's a real joke!<BR/><BR/>The CSD is BROKE, BANKRUPT, INSOLVENT!<BR/><BR/>IF the CSD had been capable of planning and constructing a sewer system, they already would have, but they didn't!<BR/><BR/>All this CSD, less Joe Sparks, accomplished in 18 months was the financial flushing of the District! NOTHING ELSE!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-12444925932228475212007-04-14T18:11:00.000-07:002007-04-14T18:11:00.000-07:00There is a way! Simply back the County and get on ...There is a way! Simply back the County and get on with building a sewer<BR/> <BR/> Works for me! Now just get the water gods on board and we'll sail this ship!Mike Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14883036796650379771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-49673348854267883602007-04-14T17:59:00.000-07:002007-04-14T17:59:00.000-07:00All the threats and scare tactics are a sham. If t...All the threats and scare tactics are a sham. If the 218 fails, it comes back to the CSD, and the CSD could be ready to put in a system, a better system, much faster. What's the big deal? <BR/><BR/>The county could do an affordable project, but they refuse to look at any. Montgomery/Watson/Harza is back. Counties do big projects for companies for big money. It's just not necessary for Los Osos.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-65448627165021141672007-04-14T17:55:00.000-07:002007-04-14T17:55:00.000-07:00There is a way! Simply back the County and get on...There is a way! Simply back the County and get on with building a sewer!<BR/><BR/>Mike, you know there is no reasonable or do-able ZERO discharge system, including a straw fed, smelly commode in Santa Margarita. <BR/><BR/>When you look at the concentrated population in LO, you know that the only reasonable way to halt our human waste from contaminating the drinking water aquifiers is to construct a collection system and treat the waste, returning cleaned water to the aquifier.<BR/><BR/>It is unfortuante that the RWQCB has been put into a position of having to develop a way to force this community to clean up our own drinking water. We have delayed and stalled any sewer. It is because we have chosen to ignore reason and delay or halt any method of stopping our own pollution that the RWQCB is having to come up with some way to get out attention. The CDO, if nothing else, is making waves, making individuals nervous. We should be nervous, we should be very angry that this CSD has spent all the District's money on fighting the Water Boards rather than planning a waste treatment facility. We have no one to blame but ourselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-28585383711878984752007-04-14T17:19:00.000-07:002007-04-14T17:19:00.000-07:00This myth about being 'forced' from homes is comic...This myth about being 'forced' from homes is comical.<BR/><BR/> You are dead wrong. It is neither comical or a myth. I suggest you actually read the CDO wording.<BR/> Or else come up with some method of complying with the CDO/CAO that is reasonable and doable with ZERO discharge and possibly no sewer.Mike Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14883036796650379771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-37430942926292112432007-04-14T17:18:00.001-07:002007-04-14T17:18:00.001-07:00Yes, it is difficult to envision people being evic...Yes, it is difficult to envision people being evicted from their homes. It is not difficult, however, to envision other, less draconian but still very distasteful sanctions. I have heard of cases where holds were put on all properties in a given area, and the properties were unable to be sold until a problem was resolved. I could see that happening here if the 218 fails, as well as a prohibition on rentals once current tenents move out.<BR/><BR/>We don't want to play games with our financial futures. What will our properties would be worth under such sanctions, or others just as bad?<BR/><BR/>I have had enough. There is no reason for us to not have a sewer. Yes, it will be very expensive for a sewer, but I think it will be worth the sacrafice. After seeing the effort that the County is putting into this, there is no way that if this process fails we can get it done another way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-54823255504819891462007-04-14T17:18:00.000-07:002007-04-14T17:18:00.000-07:00The RWQCB needs to take ownership of the mistakes ...The RWQCB needs to take ownership of the mistakes they have made in LO over the last 30 years. I am sure that they are fully aware of the problems since they sent Briggs out of the country and sent in their top hitman from Sacramento for the prosecutions. Sato was so busy covering up that he didn't have much left to us for the prosecution, which explains why it continued to look like a total kangaroo court.<BR/><BR/>If the RWQCB would come clean, and prosecute those within their own ranks who have abused the power of their postion, we could then start with a clean slate. Why is the RWQCB able to work effectively with Pismo and CMC? Maybe the abuse of power never occured in these locations since they have always had a balancing power to protect them. We in Los Osos, on the other hand, have been subject to the scams of anyone willing to line a politican's pocketbook. Through it all the RWQCB has repeatedly tried to dip into the pot and manipulate the process. Who paid for Roger Brigg's vacation? Does he have a fat offshore account? Is the State WB more concerned with covering up than justice? Will we someday get him on the witness stand in a real courtroom?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-26548579419694687272007-04-14T16:45:00.000-07:002007-04-14T16:45:00.000-07:00If the 218 fails, then what should they do?Mike, a...If the 218 fails, then what should they do?<BR/><BR/>Mike, at what point should the RWQCB enforce the discharge prohibition?<BR/><BR/>Now?<BR/><BR/>After a 218 fails?<BR/><BR/>Never?<BR/><BR/>You don't seem to like the Now option.<BR/><BR/>So, if the 218 fails, and then they issue CDOs, will you be ok with that?<BR/><BR/>if not, and your answer is Never, then what regulation should the RWQCB put on Los Osos. I think you better think this thru. Do you want them to drum up a new set of regs for Los Osos? What would those regulations be? What would be the consequences? <BR/><BR/>As to your assertion that no homeowners were threatened to move from their homes, then why didn't Pismo just tell the RWQCB to go take a hike? Do you believe there would have been no consequences to Pismo homeonwners and business owners. I guarantee you the hotel owners would have made sure the entire city council was gone pronto had Pismo fooled around and not upgraded.<BR/><BR/>To say the fines against Pismo/CMC were for facility management is misleading. The existing facilities could not be managed to achieve the appropriate water quality. <BR/><BR/>Do you think Los Osos was fined for not managing Septics correctly? IT DOES NOT MATTER how you manage a Septic, it still will pollute with the existing density of Septics. Go read the testimony of Cleath, the RWQCB, and Rob Miller if you are not sure.<BR/><BR/>This myth about being 'forced' from homes is comical.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-53108151925483219212007-04-14T16:41:00.000-07:002007-04-14T16:41:00.000-07:00I don't care any more whether you do complain and ...I don't care any more whether you do complain and we've all heard a lot of your complaining. You are the one always seemingly in a rush to condemn the RWQCB. <BR/><BR/>You had no project, yet you stopped the one project finally under construction and shouted loudly that it was finanaced with an illegally committed loan! <BR/><BR/>You are the one who should be in jail for all your hate and lies! Get the hell out of the way! <BR/><BR/>Those of us who have seen through all the lies and delays created by you and your CSD friends are backing the County and the State to get the damn project built amd quite frankly, if you don't like it, then move. <BR/><BR/>If we had to wait through all the bull shit you have put out, we would be waiting 30 more more years for some project that would not satisfy even you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-23346037786548775122007-04-14T16:36:00.000-07:002007-04-14T16:36:00.000-07:00Some of the people in Los Osos know there are bett...Some of the people in Los Osos know there are better options for Los Osos than the mega sewer. The county has indicated at every turn, with every action they've taken, and every word they've spoken -- They want the big gravity sewer.<BR/><BR/>Otherwise, we would have one project with one price tag! <BR/><BR/>But, no, they have to try to trick and confuse the voters yet again!!!<BR/><BR/>Yes, some of us know we could have an affordable project. Maybe the current CSD is not strong or smart enough to do this themselves, but the county has the big fix in, sure some are complaining! <BR/><BR/>The mega sewer supporters just want us all to "roll over" .... when we're going to have huge liens on our homes for a mega sewer that isn't needed for a few thousand homes while others don't pay a dime a mega sewer that won't clean up any pollution for 30 or 40 years. Yeah, right, you expect us not to complain!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com