tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post601922822715683420..comments2023-10-28T03:14:44.519-07:00Comments on Calhouns Can(n)ons: NewsstandGreghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04099049885765768069noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-46617625677235320862009-06-28T10:43:13.504-07:002009-06-28T10:43:13.504-07:00Amen, Alon, to your deduction!Amen, Alon, to your deduction!TCGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03150320339569740612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-34390107183990349302009-06-28T10:07:57.820-07:002009-06-28T10:07:57.820-07:00Yeh, everything is everything, and circular argume...Yeh, everything is everything, and circular arguments are circular, cliches are cliches are cliches, everybody’s <a href="http://kikoshouse.blogspot.com/2009/06/everybody-look-whats-going-down.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow"> “wrong” </a>. and everybody’s <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g9PiEgYYUU" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow"> “right”</a>. <br />I for one believe that there is more damage inflicted in this world by well meaning stubborn incompetents, than by truly evil malfeasers with the eye on a financial gain. Not to say that money versus power, or other forms of control and manipulation are not rewards in themselves.<br /><br />GRO brings up an interesting notion, that besides anoni-mouse that write anonymously because they are not known in the sewer Blow-viating circles and want to avoid confronting their physical neighbors, that there may be a species of anoni-Rat, individuals who ARE known and whose duplicity forces them to post under an assumed name.<br />Imagine the possibilities. Such a person,<b> known to all</b>, has under cover of anonymity the ability to create blogposting identities, perhaps even multiple identities. How would these Multiple Identity fictions (single Author sourced) interact. Let’s say someone known to all as a Giant Big Mouth wanted to post with false Identities they could chose anoni-rat identities GBM1 and GBM2.<br />How would GBM1 congratulate GBM2 for their fine postings, How would GBM2 offer to get GBM1 some data. And what if the originator also had a large email list to whom “updates” are given. This could get ridoculus in a hurry. <br /><i>Hi, sewerlings. Just an update from Giant, There appears to be a new voice proclaiming our cause over at the Suchandsuch blog. Wonder who it is? They agree with us on so many points. GBM3, hope you are also letting the county/gummint/RU32P board know your views.”</i><br />I hope that Lisa would be politically astute enough not to fall under the spell of such a “hypothetically posited” person. While others may interpret this as they may, I consider myself as an <b>observer/reporter/actiontaker</b> directly and indirectly of EVERYTHING that happens in osostown. And as a proven understander of documents complex legal and otherwise. I have deduced that Lisa is getting help on this, only alas it’s not very good help.Alon Perlmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00155776897189144501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-86998959341453460032009-06-28T09:45:03.430-07:002009-06-28T09:45:03.430-07:00Since Ann changed her layout, I'd like to jump...Since Ann changed her layout, I'd like to jump into the bandwagon. I have a new blog called The Razor. The latest article is "Garfink'd."<br /><br /><a href="http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/" rel="nofollow">Check it out here</a>.Aaron Ochs - Managing Editor of The ROCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10955571563734090743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-61697258436281440152009-06-28T09:19:56.400-07:002009-06-28T09:19:56.400-07:00reuse/rescue him. Take your pick...reuse/rescue him. Take your pick...Watershed Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06717188673263291686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-29953317731940349762009-06-28T09:18:34.910-07:002009-06-28T09:18:34.910-07:00the county's dog catcher "could" soo...the county's dog catcher "could" soon catch up with him and put him away.<br /><br />I like dogs and think if they can survive by finding a new home on their own, they should unless they bite or cause other damage.<br />In MIKE's case he could be caught and destroyed as no one in their correct mind would rescuse him.Watershed Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06717188673263291686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-17906187854161604582009-06-28T09:14:24.597-07:002009-06-28T09:14:24.597-07:00Quack and Fib MIKE is now slinging his sludge at t...Quack and Fib MIKE is now slinging his sludge at the county. He is a mad dog foaming at the mouth and like: <br />-sorry, I forgot his last name, Lynette the county's dog catcher will soon catch up with him and put him away.<br /><br />Keep digging "r"! What are you hiding from? What are you afraid of?<br />It is amusing that you were removed from office as you don’t know WWT design or how much pipe is required, while wasting money clear cutting land while delaying your removal from office “process” attempts to offer advice to someone who has lodged a complaint.<br /><br />I guess you and your crew thought slashing the Tri-W would show everyone what real men you were.<br />Have you been having drinks with “sorry, I forgot his last name” Lynette?Watershed Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06717188673263291686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-74298225094926294452009-06-27T21:35:10.365-07:002009-06-27T21:35:10.365-07:00I notice you keep calling people "liars"...I notice you keep calling people "liars" but you never say what they're lying about. <br /><br />Say what you mean and mean what you say.Aaron Ochs - Managing Editor of The ROCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10955571563734090743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-76759254825953027242009-06-27T19:53:33.206-07:002009-06-27T19:53:33.206-07:00Sorry GRO, I don't share your "opinions&q...Sorry GRO, I don't share your "opinions" or your guesses, lies or plain bull crap....!!! You really don't know who or what you are spreading lies about...<br /><br />You apparently feel you don't lie, well sorry jerk, you have and you apparently believe your own lies...<br /><br />You also are not very knowledgeable about construction...come back when there is a real project ready to estimate... in the meantime, it's all conjecture... there are more than enough back-of-the-envelope estimates floating around... I'll wait and see... and remember, there was a fully permitted, legal design and it was under construction..<br /><br />In the meantime... you are and remain just one of the sewer obstructionist liars... Q&FUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06093426896476666691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-92135575997960424132009-06-27T19:36:38.938-07:002009-06-27T19:36:38.938-07:00Mike,
I tend to agree with Aaron when he says, &q...Mike,<br /><br />I tend to agree with Aaron when he says, "There's plenty of blame to go around, which is why we shouldn't be blaming anyone at all since everyone involved has screwed up somewhere."<br /><br />His statement makes more sense than anyone's on this blog. If any of you are not corrupt, you are so stupid, but I tend to think corrupt over stupid. Pick one.<br /><br />Mike, if you aren't Richard, you are Gordon. It's funny that 2 to 3 past directors argue with each other on this site, blaming each other for failures. You all failed, lied and cheated this community -- Julie, Gail, Richard, Gordon -- all of you!<br /><br />Yep, enough blame to go around. Enough agendas to go around -- that's for sure. All of you get your pay day and screw the community. It will never be the same here -- either what is was or could be. You all want to ruin a good thing for your own benefit. Thank you.<br /><br />The only thing I agree with you on is for our friend above to talk about healing when she helped create this big mess for her own financial benefit and obviously could care less about anyone but herself. The nerve to even bring up that word makes me sick.<br /><br />BTW Mike, I told you about construction costs going down and copied a news article on it months and months ago. The County presented the same at a BOS meeting. Are you saying they're full of shit?! I know they are, but is that what you're saying too?!<br /><br />P.S. YOU NEVER answered but you have accused me over and over of lying. Wanna take a shot and tell me exactly what I lied about?<br /><br />You apparently are just a "shouter".GetRealOsoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11936638912249439168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-49435280183619487392009-06-27T17:02:49.715-07:002009-06-27T17:02:49.715-07:00So is there a copy of the DA's statement float...So is there a copy of the DA's statement floating somewhere? That key document should, in absence of County council's response, be sufficient to resolve all issues discussed by those who actually read the package.Alon Perlmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00155776897189144501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-51045458446684287712009-06-27T14:43:14.686-07:002009-06-27T14:43:14.686-07:00BTW Foggy... if there are no projects, you could t...BTW Foggy... if there are no projects, you could try spinning that into a 100% drop in construction costs... sorry, but you won't find a 30% savings on whatever wwtf the County comes up with... and you can thank the CD5 for that...!!!!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06093426896476666691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-36559325725976456202009-06-27T14:40:55.011-07:002009-06-27T14:40:55.011-07:00Well Foggy... I don't give a darn what you cha...Well Foggy... I don't give a darn what you change your words to.. you are still trying to blame the past Directors while viewing your own anus... You simply are afraid to look at the damage done by Lisa and her extreme vindictiveness...but perhaps you are one of those extreme sewer obstructionists...you don't like the way the sewer was developed, so by God you'll break all the toys... <br /><br />Now tell us how many "numerous" lawsuits that your buddy Don thinks TW filed...??? And then tell us why Ann and PZLDF has never paid a penny on that lawsuit "agreement"...??? If you want slash and burn or scourched earth, go look at the bankruptcy and see just how the CSD5 slashed and burnt our tax dollars... but you seem to think that was "cute"... oh well, you'll get to pay for a sewer one of these days...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06093426896476666691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-69868914562228333992009-06-27T13:51:32.087-07:002009-06-27T13:51:32.087-07:00Interesting memo from the County Public Works Depa...Interesting memo from the County Public Works Department to the Planning Commission just posted on the County's project web site. Good project recap, explaination of PW approach, and indications as to areas in the project that the County feels have acceptable options.TCGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03150320339569740612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-8877195509101084482009-06-27T13:47:47.389-07:002009-06-27T13:47:47.389-07:00Mike
You need to find new spin-words and get up t...Mike<br /><br />You need to find new spin-words and get up to speed.<br /><br />Haven't you heard construction costs have dropped about 30% and our overall monthly cost will be less even if we don't get some of the grants?<br /><br />If you don't like the scorched-earth tag, try slash and burn.FOGSWAMPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14094960232554363985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-9738145612243517222009-06-27T13:36:02.974-07:002009-06-27T13:36:02.974-07:001. This blog string is about the Tribune’s printin...1. This blog string is about the Tribune’s printing of an article about LISA SCHICKER'S filing of her Complaint to the County (with Ann’s suggestion that the Tribune is doing something fishy). I see nothing wrong with the Tribunes printing of the article; nor is their ‘intent’ relevant to anything facing the community or how the County will behave. Let us not forget that nobody else has discussed Ann’s ‘issue’ on this current string; not even Ann herself.<br /><br />2. The question I asked was what exactly is Lisa Schicker up to this time? <br />This is a reasonable question; and much more relevant to the fate of Los Osos than speculation about the goings-on at the Tribune. <br /> It is apparent from the many responses in the current string that folks see this question more relevant than Ann’s.<br /><br />3. As to what exactly Lisa Schicker is doing this time, I clearly and politely addressed the Complaint and the Complaint's documents; and clearly and politely pointed out Lisa's failure to prove the Complaint's issues along with providing relevant law. <br /><br />4. Lisa clearly made the statement that her 'reason' to file the Complaint to the SLO BOS was that her Complaint would result in an 'affordable' WWTP that is 'environmentally and technically superior'. This is a lofty claim.<br />We all have the right; and it is reasonable to ask; that Lisa explains EXACTLY HOW her Complaint will result in her ‘goals’. <br />Why? <br />Simply because if Lisa wants public support on her Complaint, then her explanation will help her garner support for it. Without her explanation her Complaint will only result in costing Los Osos time and money; OUR MONEY.<br /> <br />5. Lisa's past behavior directly leads to the question of her intentions and honesty in relation to the Complaint itself. <br />Regarding her honestly, in the past I have provided on this very blogsite for everybody's review Superior Court Documents and Personal Declarations made under oath that undeniably prove that Lisa committed perjury; and has conspired to commit perjury with others.<br />THIS IS A FACT. <br />This fact not ‘speculation or spin’. <br />This fact is relevant as now that we all know Lisa is a perjurer (liar), how can anyone know when she is lying or telling the truth? Without knowing that, her credibility is zero.<br /><br />6. Regarding the issue of the content and credibility of Lisa's Complaint; as well as questioning Lisa’s stated ‘intention’. <br />The immediate response by some was to NOT respond to my observations at all. <br />Instead some entirely avoided the discussion of this issue by resorting to attacking me personally. <br /><br />7. Additionally, some viciously berated that my raising the issue of Lisa’s credibility was vile, unjust and uncalled for. <br />It is amazing cynical was that those berating me so responded by they themselves shamelessly blogging vile, unsubstantiated, and untrue comments regarding the personal character of myself and others.<br /><br />In closing, it is obvious that the problem some have with my posts is not regarding the ISSUES;<br />RATHER the problem some have with my posts is that I dare raise and discuss the issues at all!<br /><br />-RRichard LeGroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15209499066835732066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-32676687972347603182009-06-27T13:24:42.333-07:002009-06-27T13:24:42.333-07:00I do too... but someone has to remind the extremis...I do too... but someone has to remind the extremists that there is another view and it's possibly more valid....Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06093426896476666691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-60075036851887447552009-06-27T13:13:03.865-07:002009-06-27T13:13:03.865-07:00I've seen enough, thanks. Just don't feed ...I've seen enough, thanks. Just don't feed into it.<br /><br />You're absolutely right. I'm no darling, but I know better.Aaron Ochs - Managing Editor of The ROCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10955571563734090743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-54782517814340688702009-06-27T12:56:02.135-07:002009-06-27T12:56:02.135-07:00You still haven't looked around Aaron... This ...You still haven't looked around Aaron... This blog is nothing but a blame the past Directors and cheerleading the delays at all costs...<br /><br />Too many "Don, the conspiracy freak" floating around in his septic tank of dossiers... Maybe you can help "Don" understand HOW MANY lawsuits TW filed... or do you know...??? How many have Ann Crawfords signature and how many has she paid her share of...??? <br /><br />Yup, this is little more than a gossip column... and I love reminding the "Don" that he is still spreading lies and enuendo... I don't have to be nice, I'm a member of the tired community that hates hearing the complaints of Lisa and Julie... I do hope a criminal charge comes out and one or both of them get to wear orange suite (if they make them that large)... it's take too long, but I do wish it was Q&F... Have a really difficult day Aaron, you are not the darling of this blog or Los Osos either.... :-)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06093426896476666691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-88687577179517042802009-06-27T11:25:52.245-07:002009-06-27T11:25:52.245-07:00There's plenty of blame to go around, which is...There's plenty of blame to go around, which is why we shouldn't be blaming anyone at all since everyone involved has screwed up somewhere. "My credibility is questionable? Let's talk about YOUR credibility!" The circular arguments never seem to end.Aaron Ochs - Managing Editor of The ROCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10955571563734090743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-91461456288111976312009-06-27T10:24:14.493-07:002009-06-27T10:24:14.493-07:00Healing Process...??? Are you so stupid as to thi...Healing Process...??? Are you so stupid as to think the parade of chimps in front of the BOS has accomplished anything...??? Has the "move the sewer" (or in reality, the "no sewer") campaign accomplished anything except delay a legal sewer and increase the costs...???<br /><br />Do you think that the PZLDF lawsuit accomplished anything positive...??? All that accomplished was Lisa and Gails final theft of the CSD treasury....<br /><br />Sourced earth...??? Catchy notion, but pure bull shit...!!!! Adolescent hostility...???? Then you somehow think the CSD5 were mature, reasoning people...??? Hell, Julie was so mature that she couldn't keep her panties on and walked away from a her family to have how many affairs...??? Oh yes, a really mature role model.... <br /><br />Tells us how mature the CSD5 acted in stealing our tax dollars to throw at an incompetent Temp GM and a bunch of lawyers to fight windmills... Yup, you are a real thinking man's man... You probably even believe the unemployed dog meat salesperson from AZ and how the wrecklamator would save Los Osos for the bad old State...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06093426896476666691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-17622260368669798442009-06-27T10:01:30.313-07:002009-06-27T10:01:30.313-07:00"Why wasn't vacuum studied by Paavo's..."Why wasn't vacuum studied by Paavo's handpicked/no bid/sole souce consulting engineer?"Watershed Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06717188673263291686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-2249457995239273492009-06-27T10:01:07.210-07:002009-06-27T10:01:07.210-07:00On the brighter side, the scorched-earth left behi...On the brighter side, the scorched-earth left behind by the rejected three is finally turning to fertile ground, out of town.<br /><br />Rejection is painful and tuff to handle. Adolescent ugly hostility doesen't help the healing process.FOGSWAMPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14094960232554363985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-29763888263179442402009-06-27T09:59:38.921-07:002009-06-27T09:59:38.921-07:00MIKE:
Do you even own a compass?
You certainly ca...MIKE:<br /><br />Do you even own a compass?<br />You certainly cannot read one...<br /><br />Are you using stolen equipment to blogcast your bias sludge?<br />Did you ever find out what where your AZ friends and relatives actually live.<br /><br />What were the findings of your Florida research?<br />Have you been getting together with "sorry, I forgot his last name" Lynette over drinks?<br /><br />The nice thing about investigations is they have a way of taking on a life of their own.<br />Note to "r" and crew: When you’re in a hole: "stop digging"...<br /><br />Unless you are Ron “___ ___” Crawford. <br />I really am looking forward to his book.<br /><br />"Why wasn't vacuum studied by Paavo's handpicked?no bid?sole souce consulting engineer?"<br />Come on MIKE get on course...Watershed Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06717188673263291686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-12191395210756043902009-06-27T09:03:20.178-07:002009-06-27T09:03:20.178-07:00...I can almost buy your comment Ann...except I wa......I can almost buy your comment Ann...except I watched the gigantic egos of Lisa and Julie at work... They destroyed any chance of working with the RWQCB, CCC, the BOS and especially ALL the past Directors... Put the real problem right on the shoulders of the CSD5 and Gail McPherson...!!!! <br /><br />YOU have it 180 degrees out of reality Ann...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06093426896476666691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-19181864558623894092009-06-27T07:02:57.830-07:002009-06-27T07:02:57.830-07:00Dan sez:"That is what is the truly sad “what ...Dan sez:"That is what is the truly sad “what if”. What is outrageous is that MWH did the same thing. Had the worked with the new board instead of doing everything to thwart them, they actually may have gotten the redesign work???? But instead they worked against the board. Even the contractors (with exception) worked with the Board and the pipeline system would have been complete or nearly so and the plant would have been under construction."<br /><br />There, sadly -- an curiously -- is the real tragedy and mystery. The community didn't ever say, "no sewer," despite all the lies. The community said, simply, "no sewer PLANT" in the middle of town. A perfectly reasonable request.<br /><br />Interesting, it soon became obvious that what was really at work here with the Tri-W, recalled 3, & related folks ("fine them out of existence," and TPW let's get LAFCO to shut the CSD down crowd, that what this was really all about was slash & burn ego,CYA fear and certainly not about the community, not the about the "water" not even common sense -- from the recalled 3 all the way up to the screw-ups in the Sacramento SWB office and the furious-ego of Roger Briggs. No clear heads in the bunch, it was all Bleep You And The Horse You Rode In On. Tragedy. Those pipes should have been laid, work moved ahead, plant redesign, etc. all doable under that Oct. compromise, but some people didn't want that to happen. And the question was and still is: Why not?Churadogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17701649330085709021noreply@blogger.com