tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post6047809246988946271..comments2023-10-28T03:14:44.519-07:00Comments on Calhouns Can(n)ons: NewsstandGreghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04099049885765768069noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-41941252940866897652007-03-01T19:34:00.000-08:002007-03-01T19:34:00.000-08:00To Above,The CSD listening to Julie Biggs. She kne...To Above,<BR/><BR/>The CSD listening to Julie Biggs. She knew they shouldn't have touched the SRF loan monies, but she paid herself with a lot of it. <BR/>How much was it? One million...maybe more...<BR/><BR/>What was the CSD thinking? The CSD knew the loan was illegal and so did Julie Biggs. But did anyone ever hear Julie Biggs utter the number 218? NO! AND THAT'S HER AREA OF EXPERTISE! Unbelievable!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-44527691663289520182007-02-28T20:24:00.000-08:002007-02-28T20:24:00.000-08:00Didn't the CSD know the loan was illegal? Why did ...Didn't the CSD know the loan was illegal? Why did they spend what they could before the funds were frozen?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-47155757701973453592007-02-27T19:41:00.000-08:002007-02-27T19:41:00.000-08:00To Anon at 9:01 on 2/25,Maybe since the governor w...To Anon at 9:01 on 2/25,<BR/><BR/>Maybe since the governor wants the illegal loan back, we should self-finance and save the 6.5 million, afterall, the grants aren't REALLY there. Just a show. Just a PR trick (again). Just electioneering for the 218 vote. It worked last time, and they're betting it will work again. <BR/><BR/>It will be interesting when people get their assessment ballot and see what they're going to have to pay! Then when they're made aware of all the fees, charges, hook-up fees, imported water, O & M, etc. Wow. We'll see.<BR/><BR/>Most likely we'll have a Flood/storm runoff public works project after that -- what will it all cost? $1,000 a month? The liens on the homes will be huge. Golden State Water already went up 50%! when will it stop?<BR/><BR/>Who in the world is crazy enough to buy here? Real Estate speculators will.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-48373506061846493402007-02-26T07:03:00.000-08:002007-02-26T07:03:00.000-08:00"Like the 6.4 million owed is in banruptcy court f..."Like the 6.4 million owed is in banruptcy court for one. That's that, and shouldn't be added to any loan and shouldn't hold us back now from any grant money."<BR/><BR/>Are you crazy? Read what you wrote, until you pay back bills you owe, why would anyone loan you more money? <BR/><BR/>Bankruptcy Protection means just that, protection from your creditors until you repay the bills. It does not mean you have a "free card" to start all over with no debt and never have to pay back the old bills.<BR/><BR/>Until Los Osos repays all of what it owes, no one will loan or grant Los Osos anything but advice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-257271124101280182007-02-25T21:30:00.000-08:002007-02-25T21:30:00.000-08:00Believe me it will be answered in Bankruptcy court...Believe me it will be answered in Bankruptcy court. Many will attend to see what awaits us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-37046985548583641822007-02-25T21:01:00.000-08:002007-02-25T21:01:00.000-08:00It has been made very clear (by the Governor) that...It has been made very clear (by the Governor) that unless Los Osos pays back the 6.5 million from the SRF loan it will not receive another. It matters not if that is in bankruptcy; if it is dismissed or whatever. No pay back, no loan. And that makes perfect sense. What part of "full recovery" don't you understand? Do you think it says "full recovery, unless the money is all spent by the CSD and it's now lost forever in bankruypty." Jeeeeez.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-64606486131132153072007-02-25T19:48:00.000-08:002007-02-25T19:48:00.000-08:00P.S. The bankruptcy judge will have to decide all ...P.S. The bankruptcy judge will have to decide all this in March.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-80306144152781506292007-02-25T19:34:00.000-08:002007-02-25T19:34:00.000-08:00Like the 6.4 million owed is in banruptcy court fo...Like the 6.4 million owed is in banruptcy court for one. That's that, and shouldn't be added to any loan and shouldn't hold us back now from any grant money.<BR/><BR/>Just read and you'll see more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-84645252949363237442007-02-25T17:24:00.000-08:002007-02-25T17:24:00.000-08:00Anon - 12:20 PM, February 25, 2007 said:"it's hard...Anon - 12:20 PM, February 25, 2007 said:<BR/>"it's hard to trust the county when they're passing out false and misleading information!"<BR/><BR/>Which specific information?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-67064909963722974302007-02-25T14:41:00.000-08:002007-02-25T14:41:00.000-08:00guess so...guess so...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-59703137112981530642007-02-25T14:36:00.000-08:002007-02-25T14:36:00.000-08:00Kinda like listening to the CSD?Kinda like listening to the CSD?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-36110308868329033652007-02-25T12:20:00.000-08:002007-02-25T12:20:00.000-08:00To Above:The county's second brochure is full of s...To Above:<BR/><BR/>The county's second brochure is full of s - h - i - t -- it's hard to trust the county when they're passing out false and misleading information!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-84090231551772553482007-02-25T08:53:00.000-08:002007-02-25T08:53:00.000-08:00To: Anon 5:53 PM,Whether the opinion survey that t...To: Anon 5:53 PM,<BR/><BR/>Whether the opinion survey that the County would do if the Prop 218 vote passes is technically called an "advisory election" or a "community survey" makes absolutely no difference to me. In either case, the County will gather information for the Board of Supervisors to consider when they would make a final decision on which project to build.<BR/><BR/>I know that this is a very complex process that the County and Rob Miller are going through right now, and we have caused it to be so complex, as the County is trying to develop a process in which we can choose whether we want to pay for a project or not, and have a fair opportunity to let the Board know which project most people prefer.<BR/><BR/>Just like any other project team working on a project of this scope, I'm sure that they are learning some things along the way and making adjustments as they go. Example: the Board of Supervisors initially told the project team that they could only consider gravity collection, then later changed their direction to the staff on that, so the team is now reviewing that option. I'm glad that they were flexible. They have established a process and are keeping us informed as they move ahead. I an happy with this approach. Let's let them do their job--no one else will for us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-20197083217826206482007-02-24T22:11:00.000-08:002007-02-24T22:11:00.000-08:00To suggest that the PZ is not polluting any more t...To suggest that the PZ is not polluting any more than areas outside the PZ is simply laughable. In particular, if you look at the nitrate levels in the upper aquifer they are highest directly below the PZ and are lower elsewhere.<BR/><BR/>What we know about septic systems is pretty sound. Too many per acre is bad and they need to be a considerable distance above the groundwater as well. Those two rules pretty much govern how many homes per acre can be built elsewhere. Around here the County dropped the ball in the 1970s and just approved every request to build even though the County Health folks said this would be a mistake.<BR/><BR/>In any case, the PZ is pretty much an artificial dividing line (even if based in science) and the results of drawing the line have been quite unfortunate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-52581245113391826402007-02-24T17:56:00.000-08:002007-02-24T17:56:00.000-08:00Why doesn't the CSD - Chuck - expand the PZ and th...Why doesn't the CSD - Chuck - expand the PZ and that would be it? He could get the RWQCB to agree to this because there is no science that would show the PZ is polluting any more than others outside the PZ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-63671028881505512962007-02-24T17:53:00.000-08:002007-02-24T17:53:00.000-08:00to 11:54AM,Paavo stated it at the first meeting an...to 11:54AM,<BR/><BR/>Paavo stated it at the first meeting and it was televised. I was there and saw it re-run on TV. He has stated the very same thing to others UNTIL he changed his mind.<BR/><BR/>I'm glad that you're noting that it's not an advisory vote now, but a survey. Have I made my point now that Paavo keeps changing the rules in the game?!<BR/><BR/>I've also talked to Paavo one-on-one and know exactly what he said to me. Thank you very much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-3819546428417327422007-02-24T17:46:00.000-08:002007-02-24T17:46:00.000-08:00Maria,Thank you for your logic and reason here. Th...Maria,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for your logic and reason here. The PZ had created the division in the community. It's not fair, and I don't think legal either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-36026140122111166692007-02-24T11:57:00.000-08:002007-02-24T11:57:00.000-08:00If the RWQCB and the county continue to lay all ex...If the RWQCB and the county continue to lay all expenses on the PZ, the CDO defendants must continue their fight through the courts. The data used to justify the PZ was faulty. And the line that divides us needs to be erased. We need to work together for a solution that includes the whole basin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-47685802516878415392007-02-24T11:54:00.000-08:002007-02-24T11:54:00.000-08:00anon, of:"You're way off base on the 218, and spec...anon, of:<BR/>"You're way off base on the 218, and special and general benefits -- or are you an attorney who specializes in the 218 law?<BR/>8:49 PM, February 23, 2007"<BR/><BR/>Were you at the meeting last Thursday at the SBCC? If you were, you would have heard Paavo talk about special and general benefits.<BR/><BR/>Please cite your source for - "Paavo DID state in public that we would have a project before the 218 vote." You may be confusing that with the need to put a price on the 218 vote. That will be the price of the most costly of the special benefits of the 4 projects that will be offered for the advisory survey AFTER the 218 vote. <BR/><BR/>You really ought to get out to more meetings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-49904846840467920922007-02-24T08:11:00.000-08:002007-02-24T08:11:00.000-08:00Using Anon7:17am logic, how about those in the pro...Using Anon7:17am logic, how about those in the prohibition zone who are not contributing to the pollution? The guy across the street from the boundry line skates out on the $400 a month sewer bill?<BR/>Isn't this the "Basin Plan"? Has there been ANY implementation of the Basin Plan other than trying to get a sewer built? What about everyone outside of the PZ? Shouldn't they be involved in some way in the Basin Plan? Had they been in the beginning we would probably not be in the situation we're in today. <BR/>Sincerely, MAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-50593917185826720372007-02-24T07:17:00.000-08:002007-02-24T07:17:00.000-08:00I am having a difficult time understanding why any...I am having a difficult time understanding why anyone would think that folks outside the PZ should pay anything more than folks in the County in general should pay.<BR/><BR/>According to the RWQCB, the PZ was determined to be the source of the damage to the aquifer so the PZ has the responsibility of solving the problem.<BR/><BR/>If you break someone's window by throwing a rock through it ... you should be the one responsible for getting things fixed ... you shouldn't say "well, they'll get the benefit of a less drafty home so they should pay too."<BR/><BR/><BR/>Now if you are going to make an argument that the County as a whole should step up and help pay because the County helped create the problem, I'll agree with you ... but the PZ alone is responsible for fixing the damage caused by folks in the PZ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-90742429196281258622007-02-23T20:49:00.000-08:002007-02-23T20:49:00.000-08:00Anon 8:26,You haven't seen the memos from the coun...Anon 8:26,<BR/><BR/>You haven't seen the memos from the county to Blakeslee? I guess not, you do not know what YOU'RE talking about. Paavo was VERY MUCH involved in the legislation and having the PZ ONLY to pick up the entire tab! <BR/><BR/>Paavo DID state in public that we would have a project before the 218 vote.<BR/><BR/>You're way off base on the 218, and special and general benefits -- or are you an attorney who specializes in the 218 law?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-32977573192952270622007-02-23T20:33:00.000-08:002007-02-23T20:33:00.000-08:00To 8:26,I know more what's going on than you, by f...To 8:26,<BR/><BR/>I know more what's going on than you, by far! You can keep up the good PR work for the county though, it's a free country -- or is it? Not in L.O.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-25606246032823361142007-02-23T20:26:00.000-08:002007-02-23T20:26:00.000-08:00anonymous 7:59, plug in your hearing aid! Whenever...anonymous 7:59, plug in your hearing aid! Whenever did Paavo say " we would have A project before the 218 vote?" I've been to all the meeting, he has NEVER said that!<BR/><BR/>Everyone in the district WILL pay for the "general benefits" of the project, probably through the water purveyors' rates. The "special benefits" belong to the PZ, as they are the ones receiving them.<BR/><BR/>Mr. Ogren is not involved with the CSD's debts. The bankruptcy court - and hopefully eventually the CSD - if Joe has any say in it - are involved in the restructuring of the CSD's debts. <BR/><BR/>The COUNTY is interested in keeping the CSD solvent to implement AB2701.<BR/><BR/>Jealous of Pandora are you? the County has, nor will they, "give back" the project to anyone. <BR/><BR/>Sounds like you need to pay a little more attention to what is actually going on around here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-57719127143979779312007-02-23T19:59:00.000-08:002007-02-23T19:59:00.000-08:00On a different subject:BUYER BEWARE!If anyone IS W...On a different subject:<BR/><BR/>BUYER BEWARE!<BR/><BR/>If anyone IS WATCHING the county "process" you will notice that Paavo went back on his word at least twice!<BR/><BR/>First time he said (in public) that everyone in the district would pay on the sewer project, NOW he's changed his mind.<BR/><BR/>Second time he said that we would have A project before the 218 vote, NOW he's changed his mind.<BR/><BR/>He's changes the rules like the RWQCB. Paavo has a clear conflict of interest since he helped with the original Tri-W project and worked on the county take-over with Mr. Blakeslee and wanted ONLY THE PZ to pay for ALL OF THE CSD'S DEBTS! <BR/><BR/>You all can watch (and trust) the county's process, but there's nothing you can do when they turn around after you vote "yes" on 218 and give the Tri-W back to Richard and Pandora...Pandora the county "doll"...They adore Pandora...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com