tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post8968659091133581431..comments2023-10-28T03:14:44.519-07:00Comments on Calhouns Can(n)ons: NewsstandGreghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04099049885765768069noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-74536319920350864172012-12-30T02:57:23.945-08:002012-12-30T02:57:23.945-08:00I suffer from curly, frizzy, wild hair.. I have tr...I suffer from curly, frizzy, wild hair.. I have tried every product imaginable and this is the best product <br /> <br />out there.. It takes about a minute to heat and run it through each handful of hair once and your hair is perfect.. it will stay smooth and frizz free not to mention straight as a board until u wash your <br /> <br />hair next(even if u wait 3 days).. 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If you don't think that is asking for for delay you are woefully confused.<BR/><BR/>Please explain how I am wrong on this one.Shark Inlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07308339749797881391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-33139412334793857942009-03-22T08:28:00.000-07:002009-03-22T08:28:00.000-07:00Ilet sez: " ... as being real obstruction but does...Ilet sez: " ... as being real obstruction but does not define the PZLDF lawsuit as such. <BR/><BR/>The few points PZLDF is based on will have no impact on a sewer project, but it will have an impact on the CDO's put on the homes of 45 people and, hopefully, will force the RWQCB to improve the way they do business.Churadogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17701649330085709021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-23727469336555747602009-03-20T20:12:00.000-07:002009-03-20T20:12:00.000-07:00Oops, sorry Aaron, I asked my same question on you...Oops, sorry Aaron, I asked my same question on your blog because I read yours before Ann's. <BR/><BR/>I want the answer to be in public though - is there a blog on the ROCK?<BR/><BR/>Well, OK, you have offered us opinion here, I quote you, " I don't believe that gravity collection is the best suited system for Los Osos." What, in your opinion, IS best? You have gone through a bunch of info on vacuum, and I believe you are a thorough researcher. No article then, but what is your opinion? Is it as great as certain community members claim?<BR/><BR/>The Planning Commission tour was really very informative, I took a zillion notes but the wind was blowing so hard my paper was flapping and my hair was blinding me - so my notes are kind of scribbly - plus everyone spoke pretty fast. It is a lot easier taking notes sitting down at a table, or just sitting down.<BR/><BR/>I'll write more later, but right now I need to get a project done - I'll be back!Sewertoons AKA Lynette Tornatzkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04501351678541088868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-50809223571784845772009-03-20T12:26:00.000-07:002009-03-20T12:26:00.000-07:00I think it's best to e-mail Ed and ask him yoursel...I think it's best to e-mail Ed and ask him yourself. I think the answer is rather simple, but since it's Ed viewpoint, let Ed answer.<BR/><BR/>There won't be an article on vacuum for my blog because that medium is not a means of advocating technology. You may see something in The ROCK, you may not. <BR/><BR/>I'm not going to the Planning Commission tour. Let me know how it goes, though.Aaron Ochs - Managing Editor of The ROCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10955571563734090743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-10674423767938496742009-03-20T12:05:00.000-07:002009-03-20T12:05:00.000-07:00Hi Aaron, Yes, I read the paper this AM. Well, my ...Hi Aaron, <BR/><BR/>Yes, I read the paper this AM. Well, my question was after reading it - what is the system Ed wants?<BR/><BR/>Are you going to write an article on vacuum?<BR/><BR/>Are you going on the Planning Commission tour? If so, see you there!Sewertoons AKA Lynette Tornatzkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04501351678541088868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-56565503197571073832009-03-20T10:33:00.000-07:002009-03-20T10:33:00.000-07:00Lynette,I'm done with the vacuum research for now....Lynette,<BR/><BR/>I'm done with the vacuum research for now. I think I've seen enough.<BR/><BR/>The $400/month stands. <BR/><BR/>Ed has a viewpoint in the Tribune today. Check it out!Aaron Ochs - Managing Editor of The ROCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10955571563734090743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-3866683447204749512009-03-20T09:37:00.000-07:002009-03-20T09:37:00.000-07:00Another thought - I'm sure there are plenty of peo...Another thought - I'm sure there are plenty of people, like yourself, who keep their own communities informed of the daily "stealth" activities of the Water Board. The people in those communities have a responsibility to stay informed, just like you are always preaching to the people of Los Osos.<BR/><BR/>Residents of other communities that may be affected by the Water Board's actions can read the same legal notices I do, so I don't feel compelled to worry about whether or not they know what the Water Board is up to.Realistic1https://www.blogger.com/profile/09260966115098379875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-52049156086817573452009-03-20T09:36:00.000-07:002009-03-20T09:36:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Realistic1https://www.blogger.com/profile/09260966115098379875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-73483161915356891662009-03-20T08:33:00.000-07:002009-03-20T08:33:00.000-07:00No, Ann. I didn't get a little postcard.But as a r...No, Ann. I didn't get a little postcard.<BR/><BR/>But as a resident of Los Osos for nearly 20 years (and my family more than 30) I pay attention to what the Water Board is up to.<BR/><BR/>I read the legal notices in the paper and check the Regional Board's website regularly. I also watch the meetings on Channel 21. I take responsibility for keeping myself informed despite a more than full time job and familial obligations. I don't wait to be spoon fed information, especially at such a critical time in Los Osos.Realistic1https://www.blogger.com/profile/09260966115098379875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-48760873428395512912009-03-20T07:46:00.000-07:002009-03-20T07:46:00.000-07:00I love how Ann defines the TW request to dissolve ...I love how Ann defines the TW request to dissolve the LOCSD as being real obstruction but does not define the PZLDF lawsuit as such. Both, if successful, would result in delay by re-defining the rules of the game. How is one bad and the other not bad?<BR/><BR/>Ann seems to be someone who feels that the ends justify the means. This, plus her critical remarks about boards with people named Gordon and Richard but her lack of public concern about very questionable actions by boards with members named Chuck and Steve make us think that Ann may not be as much about process and building a sewer as she is about getting her way.<BR/><BR/>In the same way that Goebbels may have never killed any individual jews and while he never filed a lawsuit to stop a sewer, his words and actions led directly to Kristallnacht. How is encouraging actions which lead to delay in Los Osos but ... not actually filing a lawsuit ... not obstruction itself?Shark Inlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07308339749797881391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-71910092844147384642009-03-20T07:22:00.000-07:002009-03-20T07:22:00.000-07:00Lynette sez:"On a smaller, more theatrical sc...Lynette sez:"On a smaller, more theatrical scale, what do you call shovel tossing?"<BR/><BR/>Theatre. <BR/><BR/><BR/>aaron sez:"However, this mantra of "anti-sewer obstructionists" typecasts dissent because not everyone is "anti-sewer" and not everyone is an "obstructionist." <BR/><BR/>Thank you. Couldn't have said it better myself. By separating out real "obsruction" (filing a lawsuit stopping a project, peititioning LAFCO to dissovle the CSD, etc.) from "objection" (a recall designed not to stop a sewer but to move the sewer plant out of towwn, speaking at public forums, signing petitions, tossing shovels down, etc.)<BR/><BR/>Using "anti-sewer obstructionist" simply muddies the discussion and by lumping babies and bathwater difuses focus. <BR/><BR/>Realistic sez:"You mean meaningless phrases like "stealth update"?"<BR/><BR/>Uh, Realistic, did you get a post card from the RWQCB announcing the initial "input", public comments on the new Stealth Updates? No? How's about a flyer informing all steptic tank owners in the county what the proposed ordinance will do and cost? No? Read about it in the paper? No? Or maybe get a letter noticing you that when this gets passed, within the allotted, say, 30 days, you will not be able to challenge any of it EVER? No? That sounds like a basin-update (county-wide) that's pretty stealthy to me. <BR/><BR/>Mike sez, responding to Get Real Los Osos :"You are the biggest quack on this blog...absolutely no one goives a damn what you think because you have no credibility because of your made up "facts.<BR/><BR/>"There is nothing anyone can ever say that will satisfy your anger...so how about moving off to some place where you'll be happy...???? You really are going to have a stroke...!!! and you know where I stand on that subject... Q&F...."<BR/><BR/><BR/>Let's see. Mike is an "anonymous" poster with zip credibility. Anonymous posters should be viewed as "quacks" and everyone take them with a huge dose of salt. Mike often makes up "facts." And Mike is very very often an angry, juvenile, name-caller. Hmm,makes me wonder if "Mike" wrote that while looking into a mirror?Churadogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17701649330085709021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-12598339163649674532009-03-19T23:22:00.000-07:002009-03-19T23:22:00.000-07:00Connecting the lateral was around $2,000, as I rec...Connecting the lateral was around $2,000, as I recall on the last project. How long would it take to pay that off? I'm not sure about decommissioning - the latest talk is just cleaning the tank and using it for rainwater catchment and drainage through the leachfield (which might be optional). Or it could be just punching holes in the bottom and filling it with rocks. Don't know the cost on that, but a scoop of California Gold 7/16" pebbles runs $72.65. That is the nice stuff. Pea gravel is way cheaper. The labor to fill the tank? I don't know. Pumping is around $400.<BR/><BR/>Well, if Paavo is at the site field trip tomorrow, I'll try to ask him if he isn't swamped. I'd like to see that $400 broken down.<BR/><BR/>How is your vacuum system research going?Sewertoons AKA Lynette Tornatzkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04501351678541088868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-13802957157654021372009-03-19T22:30:00.000-07:002009-03-19T22:30:00.000-07:00To answer your question, Sewertoons, the $400/mont...To answer your question, Sewertoons, the $400/month is wastewater-only cost (which includes lateral hookup and decommissioning of the septic tanks). The $400/month figure has been confirmed by Paavo Ogren and the figure was mentioned by Richard LeGros. If we add the water rate increases from water reuse, that could skyrocket the total monthly cost for the homeowner. <BR/><BR/>A good chunk of the community doesn't want <I>that</I>, I assure you -- at least a part of the community that can't afford it.Aaron Ochs - Managing Editor of The ROCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10955571563734090743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-48201024867517317442009-03-19T20:30:00.000-07:002009-03-19T20:30:00.000-07:00You are the biggest quack on this blog...absolutel...You are the biggest quack on this blog...absolutely no one goives a damn what you think because you have no credibility because of your made up "facts"...<BR/><BR/>There is nothing anyone can ever say that will satisfy your anger...so how about moving off to some place where you'll be happy...???? You really are going to have a stroke...!!! and you know where I stand on that subject... Q&F....Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06093426896476666691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-69812353572093663002009-03-19T19:35:00.000-07:002009-03-19T19:35:00.000-07:00Hey Lynette,How about testing the wells? We are ri...Hey Lynette,<BR/><BR/>How about testing the wells? We are right about at the drinking water standard (take away Sea Pines well and we'd be okay).<BR/><BR/>Why doesn't the RWQCB care about what's going on in Morro Bay? They ignore that. Fair, Firm & Consistent? Give us a break. They are in bed with Montgomery/Watson/Harza -- no two ways about it.<BR/><BR/>Vacuum would be affordable and fast, but the County refuses to really consider it because that's not what M/W/H does. <BR/><BR/>Give us a break Lynette.<BR/><BR/>Besides, you don't care about anyone not being able to afford the project, you compare homeowners to renters. You try to get people fired (your Taxpayers Watch people have been doing the same for years with anyone who doesn't want the M/W/H monster) so please don't act like you care about anyone but yourself!!GetRealOsoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11936638912249439168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-48529678142113370192009-03-19T18:48:00.000-07:002009-03-19T18:48:00.000-07:00Aaron, I keep hearing the $400/mo. costs. Is this ...Aaron, I keep hearing the $400/mo. costs. Is this for wastewater only OR wastewater and the water rate increases from water reuse by the purveyors combined?<BR/><BR/>The County was only trying to accommodate what the Community seemed to want. The people pushing step gave incomplete information about it, and as points came out that had been left out, support dropped away. Cost and on-lot impacts being foremost. I think the process brought us to the right conclusion, but the community needed to see it for itself, not have the County say - "Gravity, that's it, now shut-up."<BR/><BR/>But then, neither of us is wastewater experts. I only know what I DON'T want happening on my property. I don't see how the work that would be needed around here to restore things after step would be one bit cheaper to me. <BR/><BR/>And vacuum, sounds good in the sales talk - but where is the proof the RWQCB expects from us?Sewertoons AKA Lynette Tornatzkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04501351678541088868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-72194250013834820082009-03-19T11:07:00.000-07:002009-03-19T11:07:00.000-07:00I have a better idea of what "obstructionist" mean...I have a better idea of what "obstructionist" means since I've been talking to a few TW supporters about it. I think Joyce is referring to "obstructionists" as those who file lawsuits to delay construction of the WWTF, not those who simply criticize it. <BR/><BR/>However, this mantra of "anti-sewer obstructionists" typecasts dissent because not everyone is "anti-sewer" and not everyone is an "obstructionist." When people like Joyce point out the obstructionists, I can understand that, but don't overgeneralize and say that everyone who disagrees with you is one.<BR/><BR/>The County is not obstructing the process because they're not filing any lawsuits to hinder their own progress. They're in compliance with CEQA and AB2701, but I do think that the County should have been more forthright in proceeding with gravity if they knew all along that gravity collection would be the "signed, sealed and delivered" deal. A lot of time has passed and we can't afford to sit around anymore.<BR/><BR/>With that said, I don't believe that gravity collection is the best suited system for Los Osos, but at the same time, we cannot rely on STEP/STEG because the County has been very, very specific about their doubts for that technology being a part of the mix. Because of the rising costs, because it's going to be $400/month, we should be <B>even more</B> focused on finding affordable alternatives that really are sustainable. The buck should not stop at Carollo.Aaron Ochs - Managing Editor of The ROCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10955571563734090743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-83591213792411449802009-03-19T10:42:00.000-07:002009-03-19T10:42:00.000-07:00"To that I would add that using meaningless phrase..."To that I would add that using meaningless phrases, such as the mantra "anti-sewer obstructionists" to describe whichever group of people you disagree with only stops thought and stops meaning and indicates, to me at least, that the person using such phrases isn't really paying attention to what's going on."<BR/><BR/>OMG, Ann.<BR/><BR/>You mean meaningless phrases like "stealth update"?<BR/><BR/>Practice what you preach.Realistic1https://www.blogger.com/profile/09260966115098379875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-18408263108767020372009-03-19T10:31:00.000-07:002009-03-19T10:31:00.000-07:00Hmmm. What was the result of the recall - a sewer?...Hmmm. What was the result of the recall - a sewer? Mere unintended consequences? (Remember, the Lisa Board refused doing the bridge loan and a 218 vote, yet bitterly complained of having no 218 and spent buckets on Ripley a few months later.)<BR/><BR/>What would you call Budd Sanford's threats? <BR/><BR/>On a smaller, more theatrical scale, what do you call shovel tossing?<BR/><BR/>If we go gravity and people people try to block that because they want step - what do you call that?<BR/><BR/>If the process winds us up back at Tri-W and people chain themselves to the fence what do you call that? (Although the fence might be gone if the present CSD is successful.)<BR/><BR/>If the process brings us to Giacomazzi, Branin, Cemetary and the Clark Valley Road people sue, what do you call that?<BR/><BR/>If the process brings us to Tonini and people sue because it is "too far away" what do you call that?<BR/><BR/>No, the County has just been extraordinarily skillful at defusing the obstructionists thus far. But they are still alive and well and looking for opportunity. We are at the prelude to the real event, which will occur when contractors and siting are selected.<BR/><BR/>Not fear mongering here Ann, just open eyes about to what has occurred in the past. 15 lawsuits the CSD dealt with didn't stop Tri-W from going ahead, but what was the result of that? No, the word "obstructionist" is very low on the list of fear mongering, the word "history" is at the top.<BR/><BR/>Questioning isn't obstructionism, threats are.Sewertoons AKA Lynette Tornatzkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04501351678541088868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-51450722603280539482009-03-19T06:50:00.000-07:002009-03-19T06:50:00.000-07:00Aaron's point is well taken. To that I would ...Aaron's point is well taken. To that I would add that using meaningless phrases, such as the mantra "anti-sewer obstructionists" to describe whichever group of people you disagree with only stops thought and stops meaning and indicates, to me at least, that the person using such phrases isn't really paying attention to what's going on. They're just typing propaganda since they've clearly failed to denote that anti-sewer-obstructionist 1 is not anti-sewer-obstructionist 2 is not anti-sewer-obstructionst 3 and hence that phrase has no meaning. (Another hint: objecting or criticizing or asking questions about one or another sewer systems is NOT "obstructing." If it were, the entire TAC would be considered "anti-sewer-obstructionists" because members were constantly questioning, criticizing, objecting to, dismissing, selecting, etc. one system or another. That was their job, just like it's the citzens job to pay attention, ask questions, point out issues and problems, object to faulty proceedures & keep the Process honest and on track. <BR/><BR/>I also have to keep scratching my head over the repeated (here in this comment section and in various Viewpoints and letters to the editor) the constant appearance of the demand that "we just get on with it . . . stop delaying . . . get it done . . ." and so forth, like the county ISN'T moving ahead and HASN'T been moving ahead since it started this thing? To read these repeated, hand-wringing phrases (also meaningless mantras) one would conclude that the County's been sitting on their hands for the past couple of years doing nothing. In case anybody's not looking, the County isn't delaying a thing, they have been steadily, relentlessly, unstoppably moving forward. So, why the hand-wringing, like this was a eal issue? Just more fear mongering?Churadogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17701649330085709021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-65452947906345515352009-03-18T14:28:00.000-07:002009-03-18T14:28:00.000-07:00Mike, I nitpick because I want the message to be c...Mike, I nitpick because I want the message to be clearer. I got the gist of what she said, no doubt about it, but when she says the recall happened in 1995 in the second paragraph, one could ask, "Does she really know what she's talking about?"<BR/><BR/>You get the idea. I'm not trying to micromanage.Aaron Ochs - Managing Editor of The ROCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10955571563734090743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-333984398989474852009-03-18T14:15:00.000-07:002009-03-18T14:15:00.000-07:00Hi Aaron and Mike,Just a clarification.Today's vie...Hi Aaron and Mike,<BR/><BR/>Just a clarification.<BR/><BR/>Today's viewpoint by Joyce Albright was providing only her personal opinion and not those of the Taxpayers Watch organization. The Tribune added the footnote suggesting that Joyce was acting as the 'spokesperson for Taxpayers Watch'; which was not her intention.<BR/><BR/>Taxpayers Watch sole purpose to have a judicial review of the in-office actions of CSD board members Tacker, Schicker, Fouche, Cesena and Senet.<BR/><BR/>-RRichard LeGroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15209499066835732066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-65396118569422261492009-03-18T12:41:00.000-07:002009-03-18T12:41:00.000-07:00Hmmm... I don't know who made the typo, Ms.Albrigh...Hmmm... I don't know who made the typo, Ms.Albright or the Tribune... but the intent of her message is certainly plain to read...<BR/><BR/>Aaron is correct in that Chuck was the only name listed, but it is clear enough to understand... "Every board member post-recall has shared accountability." <BR/><BR/>...and Aaron, there has been to this day, no accountability by the CSD5 to date, although Taxpayers Watch is patiently working within the legal system to finally bring the post recall Directors to community wide accountablity... and return some $2,000,000 to the District... <BR/><BR/>Aaron, I make as many typo's as anyone, maybe more... but rather than nitpik the small stuff, I try to understand the whole picture... You may become a leader some day, try to avoid the micro-management trap...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06093426896476666691noreply@blogger.com