tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post9044816276458065012..comments2023-10-28T03:14:44.519-07:00Comments on Calhouns Can(n)ons: NewsstandGreghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04099049885765768069noreply@blogger.comBlogger110125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-83560954131876383812009-03-11T18:35:00.000-07:002009-03-11T18:35:00.000-07:00The fool does finally, what the wise man does at o...The fool does finally, what the wise man does at once.Watershed Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06717188673263291686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-50665992521339035452009-03-11T18:12:00.000-07:002009-03-11T18:12:00.000-07:00Now Mark is telling us that clay soil isn't hydrop...Now Mark is telling us that clay soil isn't hydrophobic when wet.<BR/><BR/>If the good Dr. Ruehr were still alive, he and I would have a good laugh.<BR/><BR/>I'm done.Shark Inlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07308339749797881391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-92212117859735475082009-03-11T17:52:00.000-07:002009-03-11T17:52:00.000-07:00Give it up, you continue to act a if you do not wa...Give it up, you continue to act a if you do not want to understand process...You act like you want a friend or something I can't give you. <BR/>Go throw the ball with your children or maybe fly a kite, I hear it's a little windy in LO today.Watershed Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06717188673263291686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-27881612578638386592009-03-11T17:50:00.000-07:002009-03-11T17:50:00.000-07:00Snark, It's your point you prove it.Don't waste yo...Snark, It's your point you prove it.<BR/>Don't waste your time, you are wrong. <BR/>Drainfields operate as designed when it rains.<BR/><BR/>Give it up, you continue to act you do not want to uderstand process...Watershed Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06717188673263291686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-87493376771009056262009-03-11T15:07:00.000-07:002009-03-11T15:07:00.000-07:00Mark,If you, king of "prove it" don't demonstrate ...Mark,<BR/><BR/>If you, king of "prove it" don't demonstrate that I am wrong, we will reasonably conclude that you are blowing smoke and that you've got nothing to back up your <I>"Wrong again Steve"</I> remark ... indeed that I am right.<BR/><BR/>That being said, prove it, Mark.Shark Inlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07308339749797881391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-33257640336518202822009-03-11T15:00:00.000-07:002009-03-11T15:00:00.000-07:00Wrong again Steve.Wrong again Steve.Watershed Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06717188673263291686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-23154987733223477072009-03-11T14:56:00.000-07:002009-03-11T14:56:00.000-07:00Mark,You wrote that I made a mistake and that leac...Mark,<BR/><BR/>You wrote that I made a mistake and that leach fields are sub surface. Well, yes, they are below the ground. On the other hand, I did not say they were above ground, just that water effluent heading down thru the sandy soil would hit a clay barrier and then travel laterally. <BR/><BR/>What is funny is that you think that it is I who don't understand what I meant or that I am wrong about these statements.<BR/><BR/>My gosh you're willing to go to great length to avoid the embarrassment of admitting you were wrong!Shark Inlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07308339749797881391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-76529718521839795882009-03-11T14:39:00.000-07:002009-03-11T14:39:00.000-07:00Steve,There is nothing incorrect about my conclusi...Steve,<BR/>There is nothing incorrect about my conclusions so stop your whining.<BR/>You make yourself look bad as you are commenting on topics you do not understand.<BR/>Play with yourself from now on, unless you have something you can actually back up with fact.Watershed Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06717188673263291686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-6917039699745718142009-03-11T11:40:00.000-07:002009-03-11T11:40:00.000-07:00Okay then, Mark ... I gave you your chance to apol...Okay then, Mark ... I gave you your chance to apologize for reading something into my words ... you chose not to do so.<BR/><BR/>Let's revisit my use of the word "surface". I wrote <I>"There is something interesting about the soils in Los Osos ... sand on top of clay and when wet, clay acts like concrete, causing water to flow over the <B>surface (of the clay></B> instead of going straight down. I don't know that denitrification would be occurring all over the place, but during the rainy season, I suspect that many of the leach fields don't drain down but instead it probably heads toward the bay."</I><BR/><BR/>This clarification of my words shows both my intent and that Mark was misunderstanding my words when he wrote that leach fields are sub-surface. Not a big deal, really, but I find it rather telling that instead of going back and re-examining my statement and his inaccurate conclusion, he got all huffy and defensive and offensive and then relied on his standard "prove it" line.<BR/><BR/>Oh well, in Mark's desire to make me look bad, he was too anxious and didn't read carefully. This is neither here nor there other than it reflects interesting characteristics about Mark's personality.Shark Inlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07308339749797881391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-88652565159494133562009-03-11T08:41:00.000-07:002009-03-11T08:41:00.000-07:00Shark Inlet (a.k.a. Stiv Neener) said... Mark,I'm ...Shark Inlet (a.k.a. Stiv Neener) said... <BR/>Mark,<BR/><BR/>I'm not gonna waste my time backing up an offhand comment I made. If I was wrong, it was an offhand comment and no big deal. If you want to spend time showing I was mistaken, great and if I was wrong, that would be awesome. We'll deal with it if you take the time to demonstrate my error. Hell, I'll admit it now, I may have been mistaken about the aquifer Phoenix using being in overdraft. I might have been thinking of some other town. Big deal.<BR/><BR/>Just Spin Baby...<BR/><BR/>9:40 AM, March 10, 2009Watershed Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06717188673263291686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-47901766019426470572009-03-11T08:38:00.000-07:002009-03-11T08:38:00.000-07:00Steve, You are making yet another unsubstantiated ...Steve, You are making yet another unsubstantiated rhetorical statement. Unless and until you cite some factual basis for your statement, it isn’t worth discussing.<BR/>It is your credibility on line not mine.Watershed Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06717188673263291686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-72900136747024560832009-03-10T22:25:00.000-07:002009-03-10T22:25:00.000-07:00Mark,I did not write that leach fields don't work ...Mark,<BR/><BR/>I did not write that leach fields don't work as designed. I wrote: <I>"There is something interesting about the soils in Los Osos ... sand on top of clay and when wet, clay acts like concrete, causing water to flow over the surface instead of going straight down. I don't know that denitrification would be occurring all over the place, but during the rainy season, I suspect that many of the leach fields don't drain down but instead it probably heads toward the bay.</I><BR/><BR/>Again, this is a test of whether you will insist that your misinterpretation of my words is the only reasonable way of understanding what I wrote or whether you can see some flexibility in my choice of the word surface. This is all to say again ... are you gonna apologize?Shark Inlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07308339749797881391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-85387743898239114162009-03-10T16:10:00.000-07:002009-03-10T16:10:00.000-07:00You wrote when it rains leach fields don't work as...You wrote when it rains leach fields don't work as designed.<BR/><BR/>And you are testing me?Watershed Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06717188673263291686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-53131235636642806142009-03-10T14:45:00.000-07:002009-03-10T14:45:00.000-07:00Mark,Go back and re-read what I wrote again. If I...Mark,<BR/><BR/>Go back and re-read what I wrote again. If I used the word "surface" in a way you misunderstood, I apologize.<BR/><BR/>Now that you've re-read my comment, you may now apologize for reading into my words a meaning which I did not put there.<BR/><BR/>Whether you do so or not will be a test of your character and intelligence for all to see.Shark Inlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07308339749797881391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-37879723083934145942009-03-10T13:20:00.000-07:002009-03-10T13:20:00.000-07:00OMG, Mark.Talk about the pot calling the kettle bl...OMG, Mark.<BR/><BR/>Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.<BR/><BR/>You are a piece of work.Realistic1https://www.blogger.com/profile/09260966115098379875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-50227387277307476272009-03-10T13:06:00.000-07:002009-03-10T13:06:00.000-07:00Steve,Leach field are sub surface. You are incorre...Steve,<BR/>Leach field are sub surface. You are incorrectly applying inaccurate rehtoric, again.<BR/><BR/>It amazes me how Chatty Kathy you are as you seek to spread misinformation.<BR/><BR/>It may not even be intentional but pathological.Watershed Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06717188673263291686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-58984852568184710082009-03-10T11:39:00.000-07:002009-03-10T11:39:00.000-07:00Ann,There is something interesting about the soils...Ann,<BR/><BR/>There is something interesting about the soils in Los Osos ... sand on top of clay and when wet, clay acts like concrete, causing water to flow over the surface instead of going straight down. I don't know that denitrification would be occurring all over the place, but during the rainy season, I suspect that many of the leach fields don't drain down but instead it probably heads toward the bay.<BR/><BR/>Mark will now most likely chime in and say that I don't have proof (grin).Shark Inlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07308339749797881391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-33495600785242757902009-03-10T09:50:00.000-07:002009-03-10T09:50:00.000-07:00TCG sez:"Laurent lead the "no sewer is necessary" ...TCG sez:"Laurent lead the "no sewer is necessary" campaign. He had the County doing nitrate studies to try and convince the RWQCB that the pollution level didn't warrant a sewer system. The results were, obviously, unconvincing but the delay costs us funding opportunities and added many millions to the project cost."<BR/><BR/>If memory serves, Percy Garcia ran the pizeometer (sp?) tests under three leach fields. Apparently that had never been done before, and Surprise! contrary to the prevailing wisdom that nitrates go directly down untouched (a statement made by Matt thompson, under oath, during the RWQCB's Mad Hatter Tea Party Kangaroo Trials of the Los Osos 45) they found OOOPS! What's THIS??? denitrification taking place, even in standing ground water. Surprise all around. The problem, however, became clear with those tests was that what was at work was a basin loading situation and in too many spots, a lack of sufficient vados zone for further denitrificaiton. Which is something I've always found interesting. If indeed this was a basin loading problem, then a line on a map, i.e. the PZ, is the wrong thing to do. But, of course, the RWQCB ignored the tests and the implicaitons of the test. They wanted the town sewered. Period.<BR/><BR/>M sez:"Seems like I remember reading that she was Bud Laurents campaign manager or publicity director or something." <BR/><BR/>Yes, if memory serves, Pandora was Bud's campaign manager.Churadogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17701649330085709021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-39780835749245803612009-03-09T17:54:00.000-07:002009-03-09T17:54:00.000-07:00Seems like I remember reading that she was Bud Lau...Seems like I remember reading that she was Bud Laurents campaign manager or publicity director or something. That would seem to date her influence even further back than one might think.<BR/>Sincerely, MMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15422834300453521293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-47456832806513150812009-03-09T17:39:00.000-07:002009-03-09T17:39:00.000-07:00The group litigating the project was Citizens for ...The group litigating the project was Citizens for an Affordable Wastewater System (CAWS). Members would have been identified in the multiple court cases that were filed but that was before everything was posted on the web. It would take old fashioned research to identify who was involved. <BR/><BR/>A history of the project written in 1993 is available at. <BR/><BR/>http://www.swrcb.ca.gov/rwqcb3/water_issues/programs/los_osos/docs/master_docs/1993_01_29_memo_re_bp_and_los_osos_sewer_project.pdf<BR/><BR/>Ron places Pandora on the scene in 1997-1998 (his Grand Jury Complaint). How she inspired CAWS to commence litigation five years earlier has not yet been disclosed. Even more in need of investigative exposé are the duplicities that led Pandora to publicly state that continued litigation by CAWS and CASE has inflated the cost of a treatment system. See: <BR/>http://www.slocreek.com/Newsletter2_ProjectCosts.pdfUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04306678062294501213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-40386821135814793842009-03-09T15:14:00.000-07:002009-03-09T15:14:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Watershed Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06717188673263291686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-86029346684458564682009-03-09T15:07:00.000-07:002009-03-09T15:07:00.000-07:00r1: p hasn't debunked anything.r1: p hasn't debunked anything.Watershed Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06717188673263291686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-4739820859907415952009-03-09T15:05:00.000-07:002009-03-09T15:05:00.000-07:00Lyneete, You want a leaky gravity sewer in your aq...Lyneete, You want a leaky gravity sewer in your aquifer but don't want Nitrates in you drinking water.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately you cannot have both.Watershed Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06717188673263291686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-43429613791576205092009-03-09T15:04:00.000-07:002009-03-09T15:04:00.000-07:00Because there is so much mis and dis information r...Because there is so much mis and dis information regarding what is legal and what is not.<BR/><BR/>The WaterBoard does not regulate drinking water, that is up to "Health Departments".<BR/><BR/>NITRATE FACT SHEET <BR/><A HREF="http://www.cchealth.org/groups/eh/pdf/land_use/nitrate.pdf" REL="nofollow">The Environmental Protection Agency has set a drinking water limit at 45 parts per million (ppm) </A>. The law says that no public water supply can exceed this limit.Watershed Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06717188673263291686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13758431.post-80405675157544531422009-03-09T13:37:00.000-07:002009-03-09T13:37:00.000-07:00Whoa, Prefix!If this is true, then what you're say...Whoa, Prefix!<BR/><BR/>If this is true, then what you're saying is that Pandora isn't to blame? That there was a generation of obstructionists before her? <BR/><BR/>Heaven above! What's Ron gonna write about now that his very reason for living has been debunked?Realistic1https://www.blogger.com/profile/09260966115098379875noreply@blogger.com