Calhouns Can(n)ons

Or every sewer fanatic in Los Osos could spontaneo...

2012-05-27T18:49:42.050-07:00

Or every sewer fanatic in Los Osos could spontaneously combust to commemorate the Fourth of July.

Art Garfunkel sez "Always look on the bright ...

2012-05-27T12:30:57.035-07:00

Art Garfunkel sez "Always look on the bright side of life" and Monty Python sez "Life's a piece o' shit , when you look at it".

When one looks on the right side of our Los Osos sewer saga there is not much to be proud of other than the fact that the smelly industrial plant will (probably) be downwind out of town. Something we could have learned had we looked at where the old farmers placed their outhouses.

In view of all the studies that have taken place since stopping the project (that have nothing to do with the pipe leading out of town), you have to ask yourself why we started the project without all this important information.

Now we are learning that in order to dewater deep enough to place gravity pipes along the bay, we will have to "guess" how much groundwater we will have to pump and take a much bigger "guess" of what to do with it all and prevent seawater intrusion into our upper aquifer.

Some "guess" it will take at least ten years of the acre feet of water that we presently use in one year just to install the pipes!

Hopefully, the construction crew will leave behind the pumps which we will surely need to maintain the collection systems in that entire area. Also, our CSD should probably have their crew standby & learn how to dewater to repair the pipes deep in the shifting sands.

Yeah, it's the same 13 affordability obstructi...

2012-05-27T09:46:01.881-07:00

Yeah, it's the same 13 affordability obstructionists repeating themselves over and over and over again like Lynette. It makes BOS public comment seem refreshing.

Thank you, 0.0026% of homeowners of Los Osos for w...

2012-05-27T09:38:35.837-07:00

Thank you, 0.0026% of homeowners of Los Osos for writing the same letter for five years.

Not only did Anon 4:19 say it all, so did the the ...

2012-05-27T08:39:56.426-07:00

Not only did Anon 4:19 say it all, so did the the authors of a 'letter to the editor' (posted below) in todays Tribune.

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Sewer backers say thanks

This is an open letter to our San Luis Obispo County supervisors and the county Public Works Department.

We, the undersigned, who live in Los Osos, want to express our appreciation to you for your perseverance and hard work in getting Los Osos a sewer. We don’t often, if ever, speak before you, and we felt, in light of the continued negativity toward you and the project, that our viewpoint should also be heard.

We do not support the negativity from certain citizens who speak often before the board. They do not represent us. We do understand that this is an expensive project and that it is going to be challenging for some members of our community. We also recognize that the battle to get a sewer here has been going on for more than 30 years and that the problems are not going away. We are also satisfied that the technology that we have chosen will do the job and is not a threat to the environment as some claim.

Please accept our sincere thanks for your work along with our hopes that you will continue your efforts toward finishing the sewer project for Los Osos.

Jean Gandy, Toni Graham, Mike and Judy Miller, Roy Bayly, Maggie Juren, Susan Chandler, June Wright, Carol Stern, Stanley Stern, Jan Di Leo, Sharon Philippe, Jan Harper

Los Osos

Please enjoy the letter in today's Tribune. Th...

2012-05-27T08:30:13.927-07:00

Please enjoy the letter in today's Tribune. Thank you community members for speaking up!

Toonces sez:"Ironically, one big complaint th...

2012-05-27T05:38:11.602-07:00

Toonces sez:"Ironically, one big complaint that the Lisa board had was that the old board didn't do a 218 vote."

Ah, I see Ron's next chapter right there. Just why didn't that vote happen? So many chapters left to do. I'm telling ya, it's gonna be longer than War and Peace!

Ah, yes, the old "you'll kill your baby, ...

2012-05-27T05:28:58.889-07:00

Ah, yes, the old "you'll kill your baby, details at 11" ploy. Too bad bed-bugs aren't lethal, maybe that would have gotten more attention. For now, we have to settle for the Time cover with the 4-5-6 year-old little boy standing on a stool nursing from his hot-mamma's breast, touting some new cultural phenomenon, a country overrun with mothers who nurse their kids well past the toddler stage. (some new version of helicopter mothers? Imagine the kid in the YouTube age gong to college with this image in his past (which is now no longer past. Ever.)

All to sell magazines.

Seth Meyers of SNL had the perfect comment, said, if you wanted a really great cover, you would have photo-shopped out the stool,thereby leaving an image of a 5 year old dangling from mommy's breast( while wearing little cammo pants, by the way. )

Lynette's been blogging so quietly, I haven&#...

2012-05-26T21:26:21.464-07:00

Lynette's been blogging so quietly, I haven't seen any replies from her tonight!

You remember Taxpayers Watch, don't you? The A...

2012-05-26T21:16:03.136-07:00

You remember Taxpayers Watch, don't you? The All-Losers Club that bankrupt the town because they didn't get their way at Tri-W? Now most of them only go out at night.

Taxpayer Watches are the most expensive kind.

2012-05-26T19:04:48.173-07:00

Taxpayer Watches are the most expensive kind.

Lynette, your version of history is so uninformed ...

2012-05-26T17:47:46.861-07:00

Lynette, your version of history is so uninformed it's high school level fiction. Winning your unaffordable sewer (thanks to you, Gordon, Richard, Stan, Pandora and Taxpayers Watch) and being reviled in return really isn't much to brag about, is it? Talk all you want but that's all you've got.

Don't you love talking to white-painted brick ...

2012-05-26T15:03:10.435-07:00

Don't you love talking to white-painted brick walls?

I guess I would just want to add, if you had $134 ...

2012-05-26T14:56:54.058-07:00

I guess I would just want to add, if you had $134 million, and you got a result to change a project by only 20 votes, wouldn't you want some further proof that changing something this huge was really wanted and SECURE from not being stopped again with no guarantee of repayment?

Ann says, "The Lisa Board, if you recall, ...

2012-05-26T14:40:55.368-07:00
Ann says, "The Lisa Board, if you recall, repeatedly asked the Water Board for HELP."

Yes, that is true, and the Water Board offered help too. The problem was, the Lisa board did not want to "give" anything themselves in the compromise. Remember $134 million was at stake. The Lisa board wanted to change not only the location of the plant but the collection technology as well. So to be sure that this is what the community REALLY, REALLY wanted, the Water Board asked the Lisa board to do a 218 vote. Which they should have done to show the Water Board the community's commitment to pay for this thing. Ironically, one big complaint that the Lisa board had was that the old board didn't do a 218 vote.

So now they have a chance to make it right and what do they do? They decline to do the 218 vote claiming they had no money. Yet they paid their attorneys hundreds of thousands and continued to do so when they decided to sue the Water Board for NOT getting the SRF money!

One less couple to send a Hallmark greeting card t...

2012-05-26T12:36:14.988-07:00
One less couple to send a Hallmark greeting card to. Saves a few cents on postage.

Sewertoons AKA Lynette Tornatzky rants... &quo...

2012-05-26T12:22:55.485-07:00
Sewertoons AKA Lynette Tornatzky rants...
"You know Anon 11:45, I would say that between the two sides, one quietly blogging on blogs that maybe 15 people at best read—and this includes Ron—and those scolding the BOS at the weekly meetings—there is quite a difference..."

The fact remains that no one says and writes more defamatory comments about community members under multiple identities than Lou and Lynette Tornafsky.

It's been well documented how they can't help themselves. Everyone in LO and now SLO knows who the Tornafsky's are by their lies, cowardice and hypocrisy. They've been kicked off of every website in SLO because of their vileness but just jack up another bogus identity and strike again. They are as sick a couple as it gets and the laughingstock of LO.

Fortunately these old dung beetles can't breed. Hopefully they'll eventually realize how unwelcome they are here and move their guano pile of hate somewhere where we never have to see their twisted faces again.

"Quietly blogging." As long as you break...

2012-05-26T10:48:11.776-07:00
"Quietly blogging." As long as you break the law quietly, that's fine. Excuse me while I quietly rob a bank.

I wish some people didn't breathe.

2012-05-26T10:18:11.268-07:00
I wish some people didn't breathe.

You just ruined a media campaign -"Bed Bugs t...

2012-05-26T09:33:20.350-07:00
You just ruined a media campaign -"Bed Bugs takeover 2012".
These types of pseudostories can be recycled every two years or less with the shrinking national attention span.
Probably not senility or my own attention span decay, but actually I don't remember it- At all.
I vividly remember, around 1979 in the morning, a cheerfull TV Anchor duo anouncing, "There are things in your home that can kill your baby. Watch us at our 8:00 PM broadcast." Even though I knew it was something like "Bleach bottle under the kitchen sink", I had to wonder how many innocent babies would perish in the intervening hours.
I stopped watching network news on a regular basis, around two years ago.
Magazines, newspapers? what are those? is that the new media everyone is talking about? After all, everything under the sun was already covered by Echlisiastes.
Wake me up when we are ready for a woman, or minority President.

Anonymous sez:"In fact, I am wasting my preci...

2012-05-26T06:59:20.843-07:00
Anonymous sez:"In fact, I am wasting my precious time posting at all as real life is far more interesting then reacting to these strip-socked yahoos."

And yet, here you are.

Toonces sez:" the USDA loan has been funded, the money is in the bank! One more step ahead on the sewer."

Ah, good news.

toonces sez" Ann, you are forgetting the collateral damage. The people who went through hell from the CDOs; the CSD's bankruptcy, which if you didn't know, is now back in court - it isn't over; and 7 or 8 years of no meaningful water conservation which has been and will continue to be badly damaging the aquifers (until the project's conservation measures start)-"

Haven't forgotten them at all. I maintain that NONE of that had to happen, at all.

Anon 4:19 sez:"
I am not Lou and I am not Lynette. I am old, tired and poor. . . ."

The long statement that follows that opening quote from Anon 4:19 is fascinating to me because BOTH sides of the Sewer Wars could have written that passionate cri de coeur. EXACTLY the same claims . That's how polarized the issue has become for a small minority on either edge.

Toonces sez:"The huge difference between the Solutions Group and the Lisa board was that the former GOT what their mistakes were and then followed regulations and directions from the Water Board and the Coastal Commission to move ahead a permit-able project. The Lisa board on the other hand, just kept poking sticks in those agencies eyes right up to AB2701."

The Solutions Group's original lie is what set this train on a dangerous track and in so many ways, set what happened (what had to happen, given A linking to B)in stone. The Lisa Board, if you recall, repeatedly asked the Water Board for HELP. The Roger Briggs and the WB saw only pointy sticks in the eye. (Remember Pandora's "fine them out of existence" email. Add that to the false narrative the Board had about Los Osos ("they're all anti-sewer obstructionists," and you can see why they only saw pointy sticks instead of a community saying "Help us get a sewer-out-of-the-middle-of-town, please.") They had a choice which track to take -- Help the community move the sewer and keep the thing on track or prosecute and hinder in hopes of blackmailing the Tri W project back onto the table, all of which just made a big mess worse. Which is why, if we wish to return to being all kissey-kissey, what we actually need (and something Ron is piecing together) is a Truth and Reconciliation Hearing. (Or a novel, the size of War and Peace," titled "Sewer Wars and Pieces") that charts the chain-links from pre-1984 forward. As I have repeatedly argued, there were critical points along that chain where really bad decisions were made, many made on bad/incomplete information, spun information and downright, flat out lies. There were other points when regulatory agencies were asleep at the switch and/or lost their marbles and made things far worse.

And while we may think Los Osos is unique, it isn't. Look around you at large public works projects and you'll see the same mungles at work.(Morro Bay's going through it's wastewater-update travails and it's like they learned nothing from L.O.)

It's all history now, which Ron is busy tracking down, because it amuses him and it's certainly interesting. And what happens from this point forward will also become history. Let's hope it all goes well. If it doesn't then we'll be back at square one, squabbling over the fix. Same old. Same old.

Meantime. Breathe.

You know Anon 11:45, I would say that between the ...

2012-05-26T01:42:24.238-07:00
You know Anon 11:45, I would say that between the two sides, one quietly blogging on blogs that maybe 15 people at best read—and this includes Ron—and those scolding the BOS at the weekly meetings—there is quite a difference. Here we are not taking up anyone's time who chooses not to be subjected to discussions of the Los Osos sewer. The Supes meeting are not all about or for Los Osos, yet those tilting at the same old sewer windmills think that the Supes have nothing else to do week after week but listen to the same old complaints. Who do you think has the bigger audience? A blog or the Supes? Hint: the Supes are on TV.

If you like visiting towns and cities of SLO county, try identifying yourself as living in Los Osos, you will be getting comments and laughs about living in the town with all those sewer nuts, and they sure don't mean us bloggers.

No one is "blindly pushing" for a sewer at this late date - I guess you don't live here to know that "pushing for a sewer" is ancient history. The sewer is a reality and moving along right on schedule.

How do you think people who have been badly damaged by this sewer delay, with its increased costs, play into the divisiveness in this community? You might need to go a lot farther than you have to explain that statement. Maybe you can suggest to Ron that he shut up over on his blog as that is where all of writing here started.

I think a lot of this blogging would be put to rest if Ron didn't write about ancient history and the Los Osos sewer speakers stopped going to the Supes. Also a move toward peace would be an admission from the Lisa board for their making such a huge mess of things. (An apology would be better, but that just might be too much to wish for.)

The huge difference between the Solutions Group and the Lisa board was that the former GOT what their mistakes were and then followed regulations and directions from the Water Board and the Coastal Commission to move ahead a permit-able project. The Lisa board on the other hand, just kept poking sticks in those agencies eyes right up to AB2701.

Whoever is doing the yuk-yuks, keep it up. These f...

2012-05-25T23:45:57.887-07:00
Whoever is doing the yuk-yuks, keep it up. These folks (i.e. the "old, tired and poor") play into the divisiveness of this community. Look, no matter what sewer comes in. No matter who's obstructing who and who's undermining what, the sewer will be expensive. The costs are still projected to be $200 or more a month. To blindly push for a sewer while diluting arguments down to how many people one can blame over something that happened around seven years ago is irresponsible. To blindly push for STEP and argue before the BOS ad nauseum over a project that's already permitted is nonsensical. Can't people be coherent enough to just shut up? Thanks.

Hopefully not too well-done. You "anti-LONs&q...

2012-05-25T23:06:05.841-07:00
Hopefully not too well-done. You "anti-LONs" are a little too baked sometimes, if you know what I mean.

Again,read anons' 4:19 post. It says it all. ...

2012-05-25T21:17:04.943-07:00
Again,read anons' 4:19 post.
It says it all.

We are done.