Feeling better? I sure am. Just go to http://recreatelososos.org/ and you too will be healed.
And if this website and this new organization, “ReCreate Los Osos,” sounds familiar, just click on links and you’ll see that “Celebrate Los Osos” is right there at the top of the list.
Yep, looks like The Pandorians are baaackkk. According to RCLO’s history, Los Osos is apparently in a serious funk, people wandering around long-faced and feeling so damaged and hurt by the Hideous Los Osos Sewer Wars that they’re seriously in need of “healing” that “would be accomplished, not by “rehashing our points of agreement or disagreements about the sewer. Rather, it would be accomplished by having fun together – projects, gatherings, music, plays, walks.” All of which would have to be free events since there will be about zero discretionary income left in this community due to the high cost of the sewer. But, you know the old behavior based marketing PR drill; plant a few photo-op trees and petunias, and get lots of pictures of good works in the paper, thereby making everyone feel “healed.” Smiley faces all ‘round.
But all I could think when reading through this website was the old folk saying, “Only one who has hidden under the bed himself thinks to look there first.” I mean, unless you somehow felt you had helped “injure” Los Osos in the first place, why would you feel the need to “heal” it? Makes no sense. Unless you’re suffering from some form of Pandorian Baron Munchausen Syndrome?
Well, by all means, let’s do have some fun together. But if you’re seriously interested in “healing” Los Osos, near as I can see you’d have to 1) rescind the CDOs on The Los Osos 45 and reimburse them for their expenses defending themselves and their homes; 2) have Jeffery Young, on behalf of the RWQCB write a sincere letter of apology to those 45; 3) fire Roger Briggs; 4) fire the entire RWQCB who deliberately refused to understand the real narrative on Los Osos and instead operated on a false Pandorian narrative, thereby making a bad situation a disaster; 5) reinstitute the MWH breach of contract lawsuit and finally find out just who did breach that contract; 6) hold a complete investigation and review/audit of this whole mess from day one, preferably conducted by the FBI, and let the chips fall where they may. The agents can start with Ron Crawford’s website, http://www.sewerwatch.blogspot.com/. and make sure they get an answer from the SWB as to his official filed complaint about the millions of dollars in the original SRF loan for “amenities” at Tri-W. He’s also got lots of other documents parked there the G-men can start on. Will make for fun reading.
THEN, when the results of that investigation are published, then and only then will we have the “healing” that comes from an accurate, verified, and complete narrative about this whole WTF? FUBAR’d mess instead of the smoldering swept-under-the-rug infected lump we've got now.
THAT’S how you “heal” Los Osos. But music, plays, walks? Eh, not so much.
Monday, November 07, 2011
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" I mean, unless you somehow felt you had helped 'injure' Los Osos in the first place, why would you feel the need to “heal” it?"
Ann, just a reminder, there are whole professions based on healing injury and pain that was not caused by those practicing those professions. Then there is "Do unto others..." It is called human kindness.
Also, dogs often try to comfort their people who are in pain... which might resonate with you if the above does not.
My first suggestion to this group would be to do some spell-checking on their website. Verrry professional.
Sincerely, M
I'm glad someone besides me sees the irony in the very same people who have worked so hard to divide the community tip-toeing through the tulips to heal what they broke????
Lou Tornatsky? Isn't that like putting Dr. Kervorkian in charge of a pro-life convention????
I was shocked to see what Tornatsky was wearing at Oktoberfest -- tights with his frozen stimulus package hanging out. This guy is a weird fairy who needs to be deported to Never-Neverland with Peter Pan and Nana.
Look, if they were sincere, the Tornatskys would stop blogging and disappear right now. They make a mockery out of their own mission statement. Come on, haven't they caused enough damage without causing even more by "ReCreating" Los Osos in the face of people losing their homes???
Everyone who's involved in this should be ashamed!!!!!
Omg, them charming folk with huge egos' that worship only themselves like community monuments are back.
Their website manifesto reads like "Deja Vu" all over again, as Ron Crawford put it a while back.
It seems that they are now between bouts of aggressive bad behavior and attempting to exude confidence, but it's more bravado than reality.
This gives them time to figure out who to blame for the next thing that goes wrong.
It's hard to imagine folk cozying up with neighbors that wanted to "fine you out of existence" just because you refused to join them at a sewer plant for a picnic.
What disgusting people they are!
toonces sez:"Also, dogs often try to comfort their people who are in pain... which might resonate with you if the above does not."
This analogy works when the dog first chews off your leg, then comes up, all eye-rolling and tail wagging and licks your hand in a gesture of "healing." In this case, that about describes it.
I think this "healing" crap is a non-starter. I'd reccommend re-writing your mission statement and dropping any and all references to "healing," or any mention of the sewer wars in any way, shape or form in whatever new smiley-faced community-group iteration you Pandorians wish to dream up. The sewer-wars damage done to this community is permanent, it cannot be "fixed." There will be no accountability, no "truth & reconciliation," nothing. So referencing it simply pours salt into permanently open wounds. Not a smart thing to do when you're trying to put a happy face on your organization.
toonces sez:"Also, dogs often try to comfort their people who are in pain... which might resonate with you if the above does not."
This analogy works when the dog first chews off your leg, then comes up, all eye-rolling and tail wagging and licks your hand in a gesture of "healing." In this case, that about describes it.
I think this "healing" crap is a non-starter. I'd reccommend re-writing your mission statement and dropping any and all references to "healing," or any mention of the sewer wars in any way, shape or form in whatever new smiley-faced community-group iteration you Pandorians wish to dream up. The sewer-wars damage done to this community is permanent, it cannot be "fixed." There will be no accountability, no "truth & reconciliation," nothing. So referencing it simply pours salt into permanently open wounds. Not a smart thing to do when you're trying to put a happy face on your organization.
I must differ with your opinion Ann. ReCreate Los Osos had a very positive response from LO citizens - and not all just new transplants either. People are sick of the drama, sick of the divisions. Time to move on.
Maybe you need to get out into the community a little more and take the temperature of a wider range of folks, rather than just your PZLDF friends. I saw after the December ruling, the case was appealed again. Keep backing a lost case will keep you stuck in your bad mood. The sewer damage can be fixed if you want to get over it. Many realize that the sewer is coming, that is the new reality and they are willing to move forward and let the past be the past. It's up to each individual if you want to stay stuck or not.
Also, I am just reporting here as I was at the booth, I volunteer. You do not see my name on the director's list, but you will see that of the President of the LOCSD and the Chairperson of LOCAC among other LO citizens. You dis not only Lou but them as well.
Aaron, your "friend," has shut you down:
http://www.rockofthecoast.com/razor/2011/11/09/recreate-tri-w/
According the history segment, sounds like things were going okay when they were building houses up on the hills with stunning views, then the flatlanders came and screwed everything up. Now many that had a part in causing the divide in the community want us all to forgive and forget. When they hang everybody that is foisting this economic calamity on us will I let the healing begin.
Sincerely, M
"Time to move on."
Translation: "Time you moved out."
"Maybe you need to get out into the community a little more and take the temperature of a wider range of folks..."
Translation: "We took their temperature with a $250 a month sewer bill and hookup fees -- and they loved every minute of it!"
"It's up to each individual if you want to stay stuck or not."
Translation: "I will continue to oppress and insult that 'wider range of folks' and divide the community at every opportunity... as they lose their homes."
"You dis not only Lou but them as well."
That's the very least we can do to alert the community to wolves in sheep's clothing roaming the PZ.
toonces sez:"The sewer damage can be fixed if you want to get over it. Many realize that the sewer is coming, that is the new reality and they are willing to move forward and let the past be the past. It's up to each individual if you want to stay stuck or not."
I'm not stuck at all. I'm not the one who set up a new organization that drags in this "healing" nonsense as the core reason for its being (re-read your Mission statement). If everyone is "over" the sewer drama, why make it a key point in your mission statement? Why not just create a Hooray for Los Osos Oranization dedicated to "Celebrating" Los Oso on general principles -- no need to play Nurse Barton and claim that the reason for your organization is all about "healing." If the sewer wars are so over in the community, as you say, then there is no need for an organization founded on the need of "healing," since "over it" doesn't need "healing."
All of which is what I found so funny in the first place.
Ann, everyone isn't "over" the sewer trauma - look at my sentence with the word "many" which does not mean ALL - hey - look at yourself! You want a lot of impossible sewer things to happen such as, "reinstitute the MWH breach of contract lawsuit and finally find out just who did breach that contract;" "rescind the CDOs on The Los Osos 45 and reimburse them for their expenses defending themselves and their homes;" "hold a complete investigation and review/audit of this whole mess from day one, preferably conducted by the FBI, and let the chips fall where they may." While even I may wish for all three of these things to happen, they aren't going to. No point in holding anger on those issues. The "war" is over, meaning the sewer is coming, no more arguing over type, location, etc. The County has the project and it is moving ahead.
I am a volunteer for, but am not on the board of RCLO. I do not speak on behalf of the board here, but only for myself and what I know.
The reason for "the reasons" on the website is geared to potential donors. You don't try to get funding with no compelling reason for doing so. It is not intended to offend citizens. Los Osos' unique problems have penetrated to the outer world and the website story fills out the story for those that may only have read the headlines. RCLO is aware that people need free stuff to attend, and that is what the goal is - RCLO pays the big items like rent, props (like a popcorn cart or something like that) and the insurance on the venues. There needs to be funding to do things like that.
Anyway, you are welcome to follow and see what happens next. Interested parties at Oktoberfest came up with a lot of great ideas.
Lynette, you need to stop blogging.
If you're serious about starting a 501(c)(3) to "create venues for having fun together," then do it, and leave the sewer business out of your mission statement, and leave your sewer politics out of our business.
You tell everyone to move on and "heal," yet you continue to talk about the sewer as Sewertoons and force people to "heal" by your command because you believe the "war" is over and you believe we should move on, despite decades of irrefutable regulatory abuse that 5,000 homeowners (and their families) will have to pay for -- and you believe that we should "create venues" instead of resolving our local economic crisis? You think community resources are best spent on popcorn carts instead of homeowners?
Newsflash! Celebrate Los Osos already has the funding for creating venues, and they, too, want to "beautify" Los Osos without contributing a red cent to the sewer crisis -- and the leaders behind that organization have contributed to the controversy in more ways than one.
You're totally out of line. With the existence of RCLO and your petty, ignorant comments on here, it shows that you don't care about anyone but yourself. People can see right through you and your fraudulent non-profit.
Save the Scream, etc.,
I will say this again. I volunteer on EVENTS, I am NOT on the board. You are entitled to your opinion, as am I.
Linde, Julie, Lisa - anybody is welcome to VOLUNTEER, no matter what their sewer opinion. The events will not be about the sewer, sewer talk is not allowed.
(BTW, I just don't bother to change my name here from Sewertoons, unlike those who frequently change names, but their writing voice is still readily recognizable. And now might be the appropriate time to ask - what are YOU doing to bring something positive into the community, be it funds to help the low income folks or other things? Or do you just complain about things?)
The Tornatzky trust is listed in your 501(c)(3) incorporation papers. Just because your name is not on the board member list doesn't mean you're not a board member. Also, you're married to the president. The responsibility is shared.
It's a little odd when you throw your husband under the bus for the sake of maintaining your blog-cocaine harassment addiction. As Lou's wife, you represent him. Don't make excuses.
None of the people you mentioned would volunteer. Your husband communicated threats to Lisa and Julie. It's on public record as well as the e-mails. And you've attacked Linde's character repeatedly on several mediums. You disrespected many people, including them -- and you have the nerve to isolate them and say they can "volunteer" after what you and your family has said and done to them? Really?
"Hey, Muammar Gaddafi here. I killed thousands of people in my country, but I'm tired of the division. Let's move on! Would anyone like to volunteer to sell some martyrdom cupcakes? Don't mind the gun being pointed at your head. That's just a way I like to say, 'Thanks for caring.'"
Toonces sez:" hey - look at yourself! You want a lot of impossible sewer things to happen"
Toonces, the only way for "healing" to happen is for people to knew exactly what happened here, to sort out fact from fiction, to understand who did what and why. Sunlight is a great disinfectant and what needs healing here is a festering boil that needs to be lanced. It won't be, of course. It'll be slapped over with a big smiley-faced bandage, and there it'll fester for years. For someone focused on "healing," ya gotta rip the bandage off and let the antiseptic of fact pour over everything. THEN people can say, "Oh, I see, yeah, that went bad, then that one, then, that should never have happened, that was a real mistake, that one there was a really bad decision but I now know the reason for that bad decision. at at least Mr. Jones and Mr. Smith lost their jobs over their incompetence so there IS a small amount of accountibility here and Elected Official X has fessed up and apologized and accepted responsibility for screw-up X & Y, & etc." THEN you get "healing." (And until the victimized Los Osos 45 are made whole and still have CDO's on their homes while the rest of us (including you) don't, they won't heal at all.)
Toonces also said: "hold a complete investigation and review/audit of this whole mess from day one, preferably conducted by the FBI, and let the chips fall where they may." While even I may wish for all three of these things to happen, they aren't going to. No point in holding anger on those issues. The "war" is over, meaning the sewer is coming, no more arguing over type, location, etc. The County has the project and it is moving ahead."
The "war" wasn't the point of my original column. This nonsense of "healing" is. And since none of the things on my (our?) wish list will ever come to pass, and since "healing" cannot happen until and unless that wish list and that accountibility comes to pass, it's both ridiculous and insulting (and, really, not a very smart idea) to start a new group that's supposed to "heal" anything. No justice; no peace. No accountibility, no truth, no "healing." So my free advice to your new group is, dump all the "healing" references. Go forth all smiley-faced and go good works and have fun but leave the still-infected sewer boil alone. To do otherwise is like poking an injured bear in the eye with a sharp pointy stick.
and sez:"You don't try to get funding with no compelling reason for doing so."
This sounds like an old grift --con men who would display horribly disfigured people -- no legs, eyes goughed out -- (who, actually were their accomplices) in order to elicit sympathy -- and get money --none of which would help the shill with his missing legs and no eyes. His "suffering" was just a prop to get dough.
I can see it now: put photos of very sad Los Osos 45ers on your blogsite and the headline, "Only YOU can Heal Their Suffering. Send Money! They need a popcorn cart. God Bless."
I'm tellin' ya. The Sewer Saga just keeps getting more and more amazing. Who could make any of this stuff up?
Ann, you are saying people should just stay stuck as in this real life, no one is going to peel off that bandage. Therefore you imply people should just go around staying confused, angry and "infected!" I disagree.
The thing that gets me about this, is when there are true things brought forth, those who believed something else, or don't like that answer just say that isn't what happened, and accuse the fact finder as lying! Some just prefer to stay mad. Or they will rationalize the bad action away and say there should be no blame for that action, it couldn't be helped, it wasn't Ms. X's fault - while the other side rails and says throw her in jail! There is no "universal" truth in this.
Many of the answers ARE out there, but they don't satisfy those who don't want to move on or didn't like that particular truth.
You keep focusing on the Los Osos 45. But really, how many are there that are furious? Probably everyone in the PZLDF lawsuit - but who else of that 45? Have some moved on? Perhaps those who settled? Also, there will be a small minority that prefer to live in pain even getting all the answers they would like to hear.
To deny that there is a problem here is not true. There are bad things in every life that just need to be gotten past. The Los Osos sewer is one of them for many.
If you can find any sewer answers that will satisfy you - great - please share.
You don't like the RCLO message, that is OK.
What is your agenda here Sewertoons? You move here in 2005 with an unpopular project with all kinds of ramifications occuring in the very near future and since have seemingly pledged your life to getting this sewer built at any cost in money and family's lives. And now you want to heal us. After thirty+ years of regulatory abuse to the community, you think you can come in and heal us. I don't think that is going to work. Especially since you are joined with one of the biggest contributors to what is the sewer mess.
Sincerly, M
A bitch will always be a bitch.
Miracle cures by "Snake Oil Salesmen".
You cant win at the Snake Oil Salesman's game, they will just shout you down. In the old days town folk would tar & feather them, or just run them out of town.
Anyone who sez 'This is going to work' is either lying or deranged because, at this point in time most soured townsfolk will tread carefully with their B.S. sewer-sensors UP.
I guess they could entice some folk by giving away their, biased & outdated when written, last failed image cleaning tool in book form, namely "The Perfect Storm".
It seems that these clumsy recalled innovation hippies now want to evangelize the transformative power of social networking and cast themselves as triumphant case studies of successful networking and self-branding.
M, there isn't any question of building a sewer. There is no way not to build it. Do you think that each sewer iteration has become more or less expensive?
There is a link to Celebrate Los Osos on the RCLO site. Is that what you mean by "joined?"
BTW, I am NOT on the board, I volunteered at an event.
Maybe you didn't watch the BOS this AM, but Linde was suggesting to build the collection system just like the Solutions Group plan, STEP and partial community coverage. I guess there was something suggested by that group that still resonates in 2011.
Ann, FOGSWAMP illustrates the problem I mentioned with uncovering truths. Even if a person like FOG disagreed with 90% of the book, that 10% he'd agree with, you know, like such-and- such a date, so-and-so occurred, is given the big black brush of "image cleaning tool."
FOG, who are the "clumsy recalled innovation hippies?" To what "innovation" do you refer? What "social networking?"
Oh lord. Won't you shut up?
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