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Monday, August 06, 2007

Viewpoint from LOCSD Board Member, Joe Sparks

The following Viewpoint was sent by LOCSD Board Member, Joe Sparks. It represents his opinions and does not necessarily reflect the official position of the Board.

4 August 2007

Open Letter to the Los Osos Community:

Over one year ago, the LOCSD approved AB2701 authored by Sam Blakeslee, and unanimously approved by the California Legislation.

The County Public Works Department has since conducted a deliberate and open public process culminating in a Fine Screening Report which identifies feasible options for the Los Osos wastewater project.

The viable project options from Fine Screening Report provide opportunities for alternate treatment, site selection, and effluent and solids disposal methods that can yield long-term on-going cost savings as well as potential environmental and aesthetic improvements. The uncertainty in the details of design for those options means there is less certainty for the final cost. These options must be considered until completion of the next EIR.

Community input has been diverse with alternative technologies (particularly STEP collection) being scrutinized in exhaustive detail so that the cost estimates are conservative as opposed to the past history of LOCSD pre-election ‘low-balling’ that culminated in the LOCSD losing credibility to both homeowners and agencies.

Within the report, the Tri-W project has been evaluated further and provides a viable option and a practical comparison to the other project options. Because of the prior completed design and permits for Tri-W, there is less uncertainty as to the estimated final design & construction costs for that project option. It provides an existing feasible option for the community to construct a wastewater system. It must be considered until completion of the next EIR.

It is important to understand what the purpose is and will be for the 218 assessment. It was never intended to provide a single specific project and certain final cost. Nor could any assesment provide a certain final cost of a specific project. Detailed design, permitting, and construction costs can only be precisely determined when construction bids are obtained.

Our community can have reasonable certainty for the following:

Approval of the 218 assessment will provide certainty to allow the community to pursue grants, secure competitive financing, and pursue affordability goals with both State and Federal administrators and legislators.

Approval of the 218 assessment will allow the County to obtain competitive design bids and build bids for a wastewater project.

Approval of the 218 assessment will provide the means for homeowners to come into compliance with the State mandate imposed upon the Prohibition Zone. An approval of a 218 would prevent any material cessation of the progress being made towards improving the quality of the waters of the State of California. I cannot emphasize enough to the community that the groundwater of the Los Osos basin belongs to the State of California, not Los Osos.

Approval of the 218 assessment will provide for the community to address saltwater intrusion and the degradation that impacts the water supply.

Approval of the 218 assessment will allow our local government to guide beneficial disposal and water use practices for the water supply we utilize.

Approval of the 218 assessment will provide a means for resolution of the Chapter 9 bankruptcy that the District must emerge from to continue as an on-going entity.

Approval of the 218 assessment would provide the mechanism to eliminate future violations of the Basin Plan that the RWQCB might impose upon the LOCSD due to operation by the LOCSD of three wastewater systems (Fire department, Vista de Oro, & Bayridge Estates).

In short, approval of the 218 assessment continues a commitment and a PLAN for Los Osos future.
History has shown the LOCSD to be incapable of completing a solution for our wastewater infrastructure. The District is not financially stable enough to administer a project.

The District has no wastewater reserves at present.

Any attempt to manage and design a project will require borrowing funds and place the already low amount of water and fire reserves in jeopardy.

The District has no full-time or permanent General Manager, even though the LOCSD Board had the opportunity three months ago to hire from multiple qualified candidates.

The District has yet to re-pay approximately $400,000 borrowed from the Water Quality Trust Fund to fund the 2006 Ripley report, and Ripley remains a major creditor in the District’s Bankruptcy proceedings.

The District has yet to re-pay approximately $700,000 that was borrowed from the Bond Reserve Fund to make a Bond Redemption payment because the District had insufficient funds to make the payment on September 1, 2006. From the period of October 2005 until April 2006, approximately $1,100,000 in assessment revenue (District General Ledger 4061) was deposited in District accounts for the purpose of making the September 1, 2006 Bond Redemption payment, yet those funds were not available to make the payment.

The District is subject to further enforcement of $10,000 per day from the date of issuance of the last Administrative Civil Liability of October 6, 2005 (disputed by the District) until present.

Failure of the 218 assessment will result in more financial and legal chaos for the District.

I did not support the creation of the LOCSD nor Measure B nor the recall because of the failure of advocates to clearly identify a defined project and financial PLAN. The County of San Luis Obispo, both prior to the formation of the LOCSD and with AB2701, had and has a clearly identified project and financial PLAN. I am committed to having the County of San Luis Obispo complete a wastewater project for those reasons.

No one wants to spend one more dime than necessary on the Los Osos Wastewater Project. The County is not asking for anything, let alone a blank check. It is offering solutions, trust, and cost constraints for a completed project. I look forward to the successful completion of a 218 assessment and the successful implementation of a wastewater project for the homeowners & community of Los Osos.

Joe Sparks
Director, Los Osos Community Services District

43 comments:

TCG said...

I agree.

Mike Green said...

Yes, I agree.

Mike said...

Make it 3!

Richard LeGros said...

I agree too..make it 4!

4crapkiller said...

I agree and commend Joe Sparks for his clear reasoning. Make it 6, (two properties)!

Maria M. Kelly said...

No question in my mind.

KeepMHonest said...

Shame on Joe, Maria, TCG, Pinky LeGross, Mike1, Mike2, Mike3 and TownKiller!!!

Joe's comments are vacuous, ridiculous and cross the border of reason into absurdity.

His remarks are tainted by the same narrow vision, short-sightedness and one-dimensional thinking that continue to mar Joe's tenure on the board.

Simply put, Joe is a shill for the county. Stated upfront, there's really no other reason then to read any of his comments -- other than to recoil in revulsion at the absence of core community values shared by the vast majority of the town who will surely suffer from Joe's cold hand.

Joe's blind endorsement is yet another example of why his comments cannot be taken seriously by any truly thoughtful person fully aware of how 218 will lay waste to the great diversity of our community.

Unfortunately, Joe is truly "The Lone Ranger" riding a wooden horse.

"Hi-ho Silver -- and away!!!"

KMH

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Mike Green said...

KPH, Thanks for the erudite post. It has all the substance of flatulence in a windstorm.
No logic, nothing but empty conjecture.
Not even very entertaining either, go take some comedy lessons.

Keep trying though, we can all use the humor.

Mike Green said...

Description of Appeal to Ridicule

The Appeal to Ridicule is a fallacy in which ridicule or mockery is substituted for evidence in an "argument." This line of "reasoning" has the following form:

X, which is some form of ridicule is presented (typically directed at the claim).
Therefore claim C is false.
This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because mocking a claim does not show that it is false. This is especially clear in the following example: "1+1=2! That's the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard!"

Maria M. Kelly said...

KMH states:

"Simply put, Joe is a shill for the county. Stated upfront, there's really no other reason then to read any of his comments -- other than to recoil in revulsion at the absence of core community values shared by the vast majority of the town who will surely suffer from Joe's cold hand."

This is the absurd statement. Joe was the highest vote getter in this past election and his letter to the community is why. He cares deeply about this community and the financial liabilities we have incurred due to the sequence of past decisions and more recently, since the recall. To imply that he is any less representative of our communities concerns shows the lack of compassion for those who are concerned.

I absolutely appreciate the stance he has taken and appreciate his recognition of the absurdity of our current situation.

You discuss your concern for the loss of diversity of our community without giving recognition to the fact that families who have bought homes with very little buffer are living month to month and have everything to lose should there be condemnations on our homes. Assessments that we have 20-40 years to repay and the possibility of "hardship" support on our fees is far more secure than the unknown fines and potential CDO's.

We will work this through together, we will figure out how to maintain the fabric of our community but it will not be through the condemnation of those who do not agree with you.
Maria

4crapkiller said...

To Mike Green:

Tell me if there are logical fallacies:

What KPH writes makes no sense, therefore KPH has no sense.

Do the "smart pills" he takes, do make him smart. Or are they do do?

If Joey Racano has an IQ of 80 and KMH has an IQ of 80, is their combined IQ 160? Is Joey equal and the same as KMH?

If KMH speaks into a handkerchief, does stool touch cloth?

Mike Green said...

Crappy

First let me correct, Its KMH, not KPH
I made that mistake.

Every statement that you made is a logical fallacy

(except of course the statement that smart pills are do do, assuming that the definition of do do is poo poo)

Mike Green said...

And of course the definition of "is'

KeepMHonest said...
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KeepMHonest said...

Shame on you for playing the fear card, Maria. I guess you are that desperate.

You say: "You discuss your concern for the loss of diversity of our community without giving recognition to the fact that families who have bought homes with very little buffer are living month to month and have everything to lose should there be condemnations on our homes."

What "condemnations"? This scare tactic, devoid of a source other than perhaps your own fears, is blatantly false and irresponsible, to say the least. Peddling fear over fact puts you in the same shark tank as McPherson, who sells fear by the pound.

You say: "Assessments that we have 20-40 years to repay and the possibility of "hardship" support on our fees is far more secure than the unknown fines and potential CDO's."

"Years to repay" and "the possibility of hardship support" is "far more secure"? For who? You? Not for me. These are piss-poor economic reasons for voting for an assessment that will tax us out of our homes, GUARANTEED. Unlike you, I am not afraid of "the unknown" or the water board, since, in my opinion, they cannot take our homes EVER and will inevitably have to prove their case in court, which will spell the beginning of the end for the RWQCB's trumped-up case. Have you read Briggs' 8/3 letter to Paavo on the CDP? They are already unraveling, coughing up hairballs of bias to dictate project and location.

Take your fears out of the voting equation, Maria. Voted scared and you will vote wrong.

I don't condemn those who don't agree with me, only those whose flawed logic and stillborn reasoning I believe, many believe, are harmful to the community at large. Some are well known abusers with a long criminal history.

For example, Pinky LeGross asks me: Please convince us that your opinion is correct... Los Osos wants to know.

I would have no problem with that, if I was dealing with relatively normal people here, but I'm not. You're a sick bunch of townkillers. Richard is a proven liar and community curse. Therefore, Richard, in recognition of all the harm you have done to the community, you deserve absolutely no response at all. Instead, you deserve to be rotting in jail, and should be grateful for every day of freedom you have left because you never know when it's going to come to a quick end.

If you don't like my list of town deadbeats, too bad. This is not a popularity contest. Joe's comments exists in a vacuum of his own creation. That Joe received the most votes means absolutely nothing to me -- so did Bush and look at what he's done, look at his ability to connect with people: Joe has ripped a page from Bush's book of aloof detachment. The issues at hand involve thousands of people's lives besides Joe's (who has a good job and can afford to stay). But Joe seems either socially retarded or intentionally incognizant of PEOPLE, as if those at the receiving end of his myopia deserve no chance to survive the county's project, even though they will pay the full, lethal consequences for his and the county's narrow-minded agenda.

Joe certainly has a right to speak his mind and I respect his honesty. I just have no regard for his elitist point of view at the expense of the working people of our diverse community who definitely did not vote for Joe.

I leave you now to hold hands in a very small circle and kiss each other patootees.

KMH

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Mike said...

Could KMH be the persona Chuck Cesena????

At Thursday's CSD Bored Meeting,
Anajane Hugh reported that the Administrative Account (Fund 100) as currently showing a $340,000 discrepancy. Annajane will be discussing with District Auditor how to rectify the problem.

Director Joe Sparks also asked for discussion and an update on HOW and WHEN the $750,000.00 borrowed to pay last the Waste Water Assessment Bond payment from last September. It was apparent that no one at the District seems to know where the April 2006 Bond Payment was deposited when the County released the funds to the District. The request was tabled when CSD PRESIDENT CESENA got flustered and did not have an answer.

GREAT GOING CHUCK, now how about producing the answer? There are quite a few of us wondering about why we had to "borrow" the funds in the first place and whether you are going to make this coming payment? How many times will we be asked to "repay" what we already pay out once???? The betting is LOCSD will NOT make that payment next month! What say you Mr. Board President?????

Conspiracy Boy said...

Joe's first paragraph is misleading and/or lies, right off the bat.

First of all, LAFCO blackmailed the CSD. They gave the CSD two options. Option A was to give the project over to the county. Option B was to work WITH the county. The CSD took Option B, but that was a big lie too. There's never even been an Inter-Agency Agreement! The county took over and treated our elected officals like dirt in public.

Then there was the threat to dissolve the CSD if the legislation didn't happen.

There starts the big lie. The county was NEVER going to dissolve the CSD because the county didn't want the DEBT! Period. Just another threat and using fear to get their way.

The legislation and wording was hidden from the community until it was too late to protest against it. The community didn't find out until it had already gone through the Local Government Committee.

The legislation itself was based on the BIG LIE that all 5,000 septics were polluting.

And what organizations went to Sacramento to lobby for the legislation? The State Water Board, the BOS, the Sierra Club, probably CoastKeepers...no wonder it passed. There was no opposition. It was hidden until it was too late to stop it. But it was all based on a big fat lie.

Gordon did fudge with the information that the septics were polluting the bay to get federal money and has continued his big fat lie to this very day.

The county along with the State Water Board helped write the legislation. They probably had 15 or more lawyers working on it. I get a real kick out of the county saying "Oh, we have to follow the AB2701 law..." when they helped write the damn thing!

Joe, if you say it's the state's groundwater and bay, then please tell us why they don't have to pay anything to clean it?

Joe, why do you endorse the PZ to pay for absolutely everything from sea water intrusion to groundwater to the bay? This is a whole basin and everyone draws from it. Not just the PZ. This is wrong and probably illegal. It's certainly immoral and unethical. That makes you, Joe, immoral and unethical. (Even for you to endorse the vote is very questionable...) Ooops, I forgot, Bruce Gibson told you to do it because it's definitely illegal for him or the county to do so!

I voted for Joe and so did my friends, but I see now that he is not honest or good. He works for the "man" -- which is the county and state...Joe's sold his soul for the man.

I've watched you Joe, you speak and then sit back and look over at your gang for approval. Just a puppet I guess, but it's very disappointing.

Mike said...

Why don't you back up all your hot air with real facts? So far you are just a poor joke and we are laughing at you, not with you...

Conspiracy Boy said...

Joe,

Something else: you said, "It is important to understand what the purpose is and will be for the 218 assessment. It was never intended to provide a single specific project and certain final cost. Nor could any assesment provide a certain final cost of a specific project. Detailed design, permitting, and construction costs can only be precisely determined when construction bids are obtained."

YOU ARE ASKING FOR A BLANK CHECK.

Listen to what Shirley said (video from last CSD meeting) and she's been in government how long?!?

She agrees with me, Joe.

You are asking us to put a lien on our home with absolutely NO IDEA how much it will be or end up being, I should say.

Bullshit Joe!

Richard LeGros said...

Hi Mke,

Rest assured about the payment of the Sept 1, 2007 bond payment to the Bank of New York. The County has legally stripped the LOCSD from receiving all future Bond Assessment payments collected in the property taxes; therefore the County will make the next bond (and all remaining) payment on behalf of the property owners.

STILL......................

What happened to the $750,000 in bond payment money collected in our April 10, 2006 taxes?

Where were the collected April 2006 bond payment proceeds deposited in the LOCSD?

Why did the LOCSD have to "borrow" money when the payment had already been collected by the LOCSD?

When did the LOCSD board decide to "borrrow" the money; thereby indebting Los Osos property owners?

Why was this "loan" not reviewed and approved by the LOCSD board in public, as required by law?

How is the "loan" to be paid back?

As we have already made the April 2006 bond payment in our property taxes, why should we be asked to repay the "loan" by paying the bond assessment a second time?

Ann Jane Hughe and the LOCSD board need answer these questions now.

Regards, Richard LeGros

Mike said...

Thanks Richard, I was very concerned that the monies my family has paid in the Waste Water Bond had been thrown away. I'm still very concerned that we will be taxed AGAIN to "repay" the monies the CSD "borrowed" with no stream of income with which to repay. Essentially, they borrowed funds with no means of repayment. Isn't that illegal????????????

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Conspiracy Boy said...

On these evenings where we have the most beautiful sunsets in the country, I think of Pandora.

Pandora enjoying the sunsets from her beautiful home(s) in the very best location to watch the sunsets -- counting her money -- and visioning her boat ramp by the Back Bay Inn, where she can sail to Tim's for coffee. All this she has and will have off of the backs of thousands of people and destroying their lives.

Talk about selling your soul.

And you, Richard, sitting up in Cabrillo Estates, watching your sunsets, drinking your fine wine, laughing at everyone below.

Up above the riff-raff, up above the sewer and construction, up above having to pay a dime for all your destruction, but I don't think you ever had a soul. You're out of your mind anyway. Totally out of your mind.

But you do have your clones and followers. People who can't think for themselves having to follow either Richard/Pandora or Gail McPherson.

No wonder we're in this mess.

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4crapkiller said...

To Mike Green and the "other Mike":

Thank you for reviewing my statements and determining they were logical fallacies. I guess when any opinion is posted it just a logical fallacy (sob). I feel insufficient (sob, sob, sob).

It appears that I have been countering logical fallacies with more logical fallacies and that is not logical.

But as you wisely said, the above depends on what the definition of is, is........

I am still waiting for Steve to post the sewer system that McPherson designed and built.

Waiting, waiting, waiting. Still waiting for KMH documentation of his brilliance. Still waiting for figures from conspiracy boy on Orenco and Ripley financing from GE. Waiting, waiting, waiting.

"Pie in the sky" and nothing to eat: "Cow pies in the sky". Do you all think we have enough "cow pie" lovers in the Los Osos PZ to trade their homes for "cow pies in the sky"?

KeepMHonest said...

What a freak show!

Pinky fumed:

"If you do not provide your data and facts, then it is obvious to all that you have nothing to offer to this blog or that are you are due serious consideration.

Regards, Richard LaGross"

Richard, who the hell do you think you are anymore to ask for anything in this town except a swift kick in the ass? I lift my leg to you!

Get this, Pinky: There is no "ALL" on this blog who agree with you on ANYTHING except you, your multiple identities, TownKiller and its multiple identities, Mike1, Mike3 and Mike3.

Fact: You are UTTERLY, COMPLETELY ALONE!!!

No amount of webtriloquism can hide that FACT. You have isolated yourself to all but those few diehards assigned to your bunker.

Fact: You are a CERTIFIED LOSER ... MANY TIMES OVER!!! This is well documented, so stop acting like you are alive in this town when YOU ARE NOT!!!

Fact: You are a TRAITOR walking amongst those you betrayed. Think about it.

Think "LEPER" because that's what you are to this community. Think "LEPER COLONY" because that's your gift house on Rodman.

You deserve all the SCORN, RIDICULE and ABUSE this town can possibly heap on you -- AND MORE! You are an unrepentant bore who keeps asking for more, a fool to be sure!

And remember this simple TRUTH as the years ebb away, Pinky:

"YOU DID IT TO YOURSELF...

...IN SPADES!!!

KMH

Mike said...

More great rebuttal by KMH!

Still laughing at you, not with you!

Shark Inlet said...

The comments here in the last few days seem to confirm that Conspiracy Boy and KeepMHonest tend to be a bit out-of-touch with what the rest of us call "reality". There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but before I have a such a dramatic paradigm shift was they've had ... before I start to believe that Pandora framed OJ Simpson with the help of Roger Briggs, Paavo Ogren and Krusty the Klown ... I would like to see some evidence first.

The misguided and hateful things they've written (about Joe and others) should be something they are embarrassed by. As a Los Osos resident, I am embarrassed by these comments and many others as well.

Civil discourse with folks you disagree with is a sign of a mature individual.

Let's get with the program, guys! Unless you do it will become even more difficult to convince folks to adopt your point of view.



I am somewhat wondering whether these two are just strawman sockpuppets by some TriW supporter, trying to mock the move the sewer folks ... if this were the case, the act would seem to be working.

Perhaps the best way of getting folks to vote for the 218 is to put a billboard of Linde Owen, Michael Jones, Julie Tacker, Al Barrow and Alon Perman up on the corner of South Bay and LOVR with the words "vote no on 218 so that we can do it right".

ps - the "word verification" for this comment was "lmaoinlo"

Area51 said...

Shark:
If you remember back when one could post anonymously, it was KEH/conspiracy boy who spammed the board then blamed the whole thing on Crap and "the dreamers." The result was Ann doing away with the "anonymous" posting. This is the kind of deviant mind that is at work here. I must admit KEH/conspiracy boy are quite brilliant in their misdirection, their lies, their fear-mongering, their deceit. But I disagree they (he)are Tri-W supporters or the like. These are died-in-the-wool I ain't ever gonna pay for a sewer professional obstructionists. Should be interesting what they (he) will materialize into should the 218 pass.

Conspiracy Boy said...

CrapKiller,

You dummy. Why wait for me? You said, "Still waiting for figures from conspiracy boy on Orenco and Ripley financing from GE. Waiting, waiting, waiting."

Talk to the county. They've got the info, not me.

Twisting, twisting, twisting the day away!

Conspiracy Boy said...

To Richard LeGros:

You missed my point. To gain financially from the pain of thousands of your friends and neighbors is immoral and with both you and Pandora being ex-CSD directors, it's unethical. I guess it pays to be a crook. That's my point. Money is your God, and you've sold your souls obviously.
Money isn't my God and I won't sell my soul for a view and big house.

Don't worry about my happiness. I'm miserable living in a place where there's no democracy. SLO county isn't America. Thanks to you dreamers, I've lost a lot of the equity in my home and now you want a blank check. Come on Richard. You've worked with Sam Blakeslee and all the bad guys all along.

Who can be happy when we're going to lose everything? You and Pandora can afford to stay, but we can't. You don't pay for the sewer. You won't live with the construction. You're just fine. But remember karma. You and Pandora. What goes around comes around.

Everything has been based on lies from the beginning from Pandora and Roger Briggs. Lies, tricks, threats, bullying, electioneering, ...all that good stuff that makes you people who you are.

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KeepMHonest said...

How wimpy are the weak of mind!

Sharkey whines: "The misguided and hateful things they've written (about Joe and others) should be something they are embarrassed by. As a Los Osos resident, I am embarrassed by these comments and many others as well.
"Civil discourse with folks you disagree with is a sign of a mature individual. Let's get with the program, guys! Unless you do it will become even more difficult to convince folks to adopt your point of view."

You are SO WRONG, fella. You are just weak, that's it in a nutshell.

I disagreed with Joe's comments. You just can't handle it. I have no problem with Joe personally. I do have a problem with wimps who can't handle criticism or how that criticism is expressed. If you can't express your opinions with any authority, of course they will fall upon deaf ears...like yours! Wake up and be a man or a woman or both, I don't care. Just show the strength of your convictions. The truth is, you have no convictions. Don't blame me for your weaknesses.
Your attempt at suppression sickens me. Everytime you retreat you cry "hate!" to kill the messenger. You are nothing but a handmaiden to the dissolution of democracy in Los Osos.

You simply lack the maturity to deal with MATURE material. Admit it. Take ownership of your fears and flaws. Don't pin them on me in the form of repression. You have too many problems within to have reached any level of maturity to judge me, that's for sure.

I take these matters very seriously and I don't suffer fools lightly. As Harry Truman said, "If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen." And that goes for you and Sharkey and the rest of your cult of failure.

I haven't heard a single argument from you or, gag me, LeGros that was anything but, at best, in your case, cheerleading for Tri-W, or in, gag me, Richard's case, lies and fantasies. You want civil discourse, start practicing some degree of intelligence untainted by runaway bias and relentless coverups. This goes for you, too, CrapKiller. You three are crippled to the point of uselessness by your carefully crafted biases.

Contrary to what you wish to "believe" for your convenience, I have absolutely no problem convincing "folks" to adopt my point of view. Obviously, I have no desire to convince people who aren't listening, who don't care about the whole community, who are mere byproducts of their biases, hypocrites to core who can dish it out but can't take it, who obviously can't hold their ground in a strong debate...because they and you are simply on the wrong side of all the issues that mean anything to the real people of Los Osos, not to the three of you in your ivory towers.

KMH

Richard LeGros said...

KMH,

Gosh, why don't you say what you really mean?

While reading your last post, I could not help but wonder why you didn't interject the classic taunt of................
"And...and...your mama wears army boots too!!!!"

Area51 said...

I have to say I actually agree with KEH. Civil discourse is simply not an option for the radical no sewer (oops, I mean move the sewer) element in Los Osos. Just watching their performances at CSD and BOS meetings each week is sickening. I loathe these people's actions, and am quite upfront and honest about it. Whether it's the constant insulting of people and their ideas, the arrogance of those who unbelievably have no dog in the fight (ie: renters such as Dugan and Pearlman or out-of-towners like Margetson), the trampling of the rights of landowners and the contempt they have for those who are more successful then they, or crimminal actions like the spray paint can yielding Michael Jones, I have no use for these people. I mean, c'mon on, the notion of "community healing, " while noble, is quite naive at the moment. And I wish I were more mature, I guess, but hey, wishing doesn't make it so.

I simply treat them, KEH/conspiracy boy included, as I will treat the turds in my toilet when we finally have a gravity, probably out of town sewer.....I flush 'em and forget 'em.

Conspiracy Boy said...

SharkInlet:

You say, "before I start to believe that Pandora framed OJ Simpson with the help of Roger Briggs, Paavo Ogren and Krusty the Klown ... I would like to see some evidence first..."

How about I start you with the PR material Pandora made up when forming the CSD. Oh, and there's lots more printed information that will come out. It's all been lies. She knows it, we know it. She's the "county girl" for a reason!

I trust Krusty the Clown over Pandora, Paavo, Noel King, Roger Briggs and the others (you included.)

So, sorry, Mr. SharkInlet, that you're just too dumb to see the difference between what is hateful and what is the truth!

And to Area: I did not spam Ann's site. That's a big fat lie. CrapKiller did it and was caught. Again, liars lie. You guys are sick.

Shark Inlet said...

KeepMHonest,

I don't think the issue is that a lack the maturity to handle your comments ... I think the issue is that your comments themselves lack maturity and content.

If you don't want to present people with a realistic alternative to the County process, that is your choice. If you want people to see your preferred alternative as realistic, you should stop being so childish in what you write and you should start presenting details.

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KeepMHonest said...

Get with it, ye vultures and scavengers!

Shark Inlet postures: "I don't think the issue is that a lack the maturity to handle your comments ... I think the issue is that your comments themselves lack maturity and content.

"If you don't want to present people with a realistic alternative to the County process, that is your choice. If you want people to see your preferred alternative as realistic, you should stop being so childish in what you write and you should start presenting details."

What a joke! You are as dense as stone. Hopeless, both you and Pinky. What good is it talking to two lamp posts? You have FAKE CONTENT LITE. Look, you're WRONG, you've lost every time, and you're going to lose AGAIN because it doesn't sink through brain matter killed by bias. It's really not that complicated when you have BRAINS!

You can't tell a FOOL anything they think they already know.

Good luck in college,

KMH

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