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Saturday, April 26, 2014

Oh, Just Get Off My Property

You gotta admit, Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy had a good run at his 15 minutes of fame playing The Poor Aggrieved, Victimized Old White Guy Being Menaced by Tyrants!

Actually, the “tyrants” in question were BLM repo men attempting to round up and repossess his cows on federal land, collateral for 20 years worth of non-payments of his grazing fees.  Simple action, really, happens all the time with cars – don’t pay your car loan, car disappears, usually in the middle of the night.

With a herd of cows, of course, it’s different.  That’s where the comedy started and where Cliven became a star .  Before you could say “John Wayne,” a gaggle of armed wannabe  self-styled “militia” showed up to strut around a gaggle of tents they set up and called “Camp Trip Wire,” brandishing their weapons for the TV cameras, little Half-Minute Men ready to face down the BLM guys.  One Local Hero even went so far as to excitedly declare that if there was gonna be trouble, he was gonna make sure the women-folk would be placed up front so they’d get shot first so the whole country could see just how awful the “gummint” was.  I’m sure he thought his little plan would serve to shock the viewers, but I’ll bet the only thing the viewers thought was, “If that guy’s married, I sure hope he doesn’t go home tonight.”

Not wanting another Ruby Ridge triggered by a bunch of stupid Aggrieved Resentful Angry Armed White Guys, the federal agents backed away, leaving Cliven’s cows uncollected.
The right wing, of course, loved everything about this story.  Loved it!  It hit all their grievance-politics notes, plus cowboy hats!  And they rushed to declare that they were with old Cliven, that he was an American Hero, a Patriot, the perfect image of what a Conservative is all about, all that stalwart, rugged individualism!  Plus, what could be a better “conservative values” visual than shots of a stalwart iconic Western cowboy (Cliven) riding around on his horse waving a huge American flag?

Until, that is, Jon Stewart pointed out that Cliven Bundy is one of those old posse comitatus guys, a political line that runs straight from federal government deniers, states righters, Night Riding Jim Crowers , straight back to the Unreconstructed South.  So what, Jon wondered, Is Cliven doing flapping an American flag around?  That’s the flag of the . . . federal government.

Finally, as it always happens, the warm glow of all the media love loosened Cliven’s tongue and he spilled the out the really good beans, the central heart of the matter and started talking about . . . The Neeeee-gro.

Now, in this day and age of grievance politics, when you hear those words – “The Negro” – you just know that things are likely gonna go south real soon.  And sure enough, they did.  Ol’ Cliven started a-wonderin’ if The Neeegro wasn’t better off as slaves. And, picking up on the conservatives’ meme that equated slavery with food stamps, commenced a-wondering if The Neeegro wasn’t “slaves to charities and government subsidized homes?  And are they slaves when their daughters are having abortions and their sons are in the prisons.  This thought goes back a long time,” said Cliven Bundy, who had been sucking on the government teat himself for 20 years-worth of taxpayer subsidized welfare in the form of unpaid grazing fees.

Well, the whooshing intake of breath from all the conservative Pols and Pundits who had first rushed to old Cliven’s side darned near blew down half of Nevada.  And the trampling of conservative Pols and Pundits’ feet scampering to get some plausible-deniable distance between themselves and old Cliven broke the Bonneville Flats’ speed record and left a track out of Nevada deeper than the Grand Canyon.
And poor old Cliven was left alone with his little band of now foolish-looking armed-and-dangerous, shoot-women-first Green Mountain Boys, though this being Nevada in a drought year, they were more dusty brown than green.

And Cliven’s cows are back mooching off federal land, for now, while the rest of the country is wondering, “How do you spell “C-O-G-N-I-T-I-V-E  D-I-S-S-O-N-A-N-C-E? “

37 comments:

Bob from San Luis said...

"How do you spell "C-O-(G)N-I-T-I-V-E D-I-S-S-O-N-A-N-C-E?" That's an easy one "Republican" ....

bunchadogs said...

I was thinking about old clive today. in wonderment.
how can people be so ignorant?

~~susan

Churadogs said...

Bob: oops, thanks. I got tangled in hyphens!

Susan: What's so creepy about ol' Clive is that nobody in the Republican Party, no national leader of any stature stood up and said, up front, This guy is a deadbeat crank who's breaking the law, these rag-tag "militias" are obstructing justice and present a danger to the community. (Did you catch the photo of one of Clive's dangerous, disorganized, rag-tag, heavily armed "Trip Wire" gang laying on the overpass in "sniper position" pointing his rifle at the crowd of people below? One misstep and innocent civilians would die in a stupid melee.

Nobody of political stature stood up to denounce that guy until he started babbling about race, and while ol' Clive whole anti-government rant ultimately traces back to the whole unreconstructed South, what he was doing in the present was obstructing justice and doing so in a public way and in a very, very dangerous way. Yet everyone kept mum. That will have blowback in the future, I'm sure, since the "message" sent to these armed A--holes was clear: The law is helpless in a country ruled by the power of the gun.

Anonymous said...

Good ol' Clive is really a main stream D-U-M-O-C-R-A-T!

Ron said...

When these "militia" nut-jobs are through with ol' Clive, and they start looking around for a REAL "gummint" abuse to stand up to, I suggest they roll into Los Osos, and set up their "Camp Tripwire" in front of the PZ house that installs a composting toilet/greywater system, and then tells the State of California, "F-you! I'm not discharging squat through my septic tank, and, therefore, I'm not hooking up to, or paying for, your needless sewer!"

Then, the "worst case scenario" that I predicted years ago, comes true: There's a $200 million sewer system in Los Osos, that no one needs to hook up to, or pay for, because y'all are on composting toilet/greywater systems.

Heck, now that I think about it, "The Los Osos 45" could use the "help" of ol' Clive's boyz, too.

Anonymous said...

Dude, Ron. Shut the duck up.

Anonymous said...

Let's see anyone in the PZ try to sell a house that isn't hooked up to the sewer once completed. Is that mentioned in the any of the scenarios? Septic tanks or "toilet waste grey water", it would still be against the health codes. Since Ron the fearless is now giving out free legal advice, will Ron pick up the defense bill for defending that case in court? If you believe he's correct, then just remember, he has no money involved here, just wants to goad folks into an expensive battle, but the war is long over.

Of course they could move in next to that legal expert, Ron Crawford and enjoy wiping with straw and wood shavings like he says he does.

Sewertoons AKA Lynette Tornatzky said...

Anon 11:27 AM, I am laughing so hard I fell off my chair! Great post aimed at one that STILL doesn't get the sewage problems in LO!

Churadogs said...

The problem with Ron's suggestion is that the RWQCB would simply vote to change the regs and forbid ANY greywater discharge, even one hooked up to a (previously)approved greywater system, unless it met tertiary standards.Few single homes could afford such a system, so problem solved.

Anonymous said...

The real problem with Ron Crawford's "suggestions" are that he makes it sound as if he is some legal guru. Should a property owner quote him having provided "advice" into a lawsuit, Mr. Crawford could then be pulled into the court and shredded by a licensed attorney.

Does Mr. Crawford have enough where with all to defend himself in a lawsuit?

Ron said...

Ann writes:

"The problem with Ron's suggestion is that the RWQCB would simply vote to change the regs and forbid ANY greywater discharge..."

Like people like ol' Clive would care.

Hey, they've got good ol' Camp T-Wi between them and agencies like the RWQCB, so why would they even give a f what Jeff says.

Here, check this scenario: Because I'm really smart, and know my way around a Bell Curve, I already know what's going to happen in Los Osos, in a year or so.

It goes like this:

Let's just round off to 5,000 residential properties in the PZ.

Well, o.k., now, does anyone REALLY expect 100-percent compliance that ALL -- every single one -- of those 5,000 properties are going to voluntarily hook up to a really expensive sewer that they don't need (at least in their minds), because their septic tanks (or their composting toilets) are working perfectly? [Keep in mind, all the county can do is bring the sewer hook-up to the property owner's lot line, and it's entirely up to the property owner to hook up to it -- that's a VERY important point. "Property rights," yo.]

Welp, because I actually paid attention in statistics class, I already know the answer to that question, and the answer is, "No."

So, if just 1-percent of those 5,000 properties go to the ol' Clive card, and tell Jeff and Co. at the RWQCB, "Take your needless sewer and cram it," well, that's going to be 50 different ol' Clives.

Now, I'll even cut that number in half, to just .05-percent. That's STILL 25 properties in Los Osos that go to the ol' Clive card.

O.K. Great. Now what? What's the End Game for that scenario?

Is Sheriff Parkinson REALLY going to start bashing down 80-year-old Harold and Mabel's doors, and point 9 mils at their heads, force them to the ground, wrap them up in shackles, and then drag them off to jail, while SLO County government rips their house away from them, and then sells it to the highest bidder, ALL because 80-year-old Harold and Mabel can't afford to hook up to a sewer, that they don't even need.

I mean, is that REALLY going to happen... 25 times?

Two words: Media frenzy.

And we all know what that means now: Here's comes are Boyz from Camp T-Wi, 'cause, you know... property rights, yo.

Then we have 25 Ruby Ridges on our hands.

Now, I know that people like the Tornatzkys, and the Karners, and the Gregorys, would prefer the above scenario -- where 80-year-old Harold and Mabel get shackled, dragged off to jail, and then their homes sold to the highest bidder -- but what about the rest of Los Osos, and SLO County, and California, and the United States?

Heck, what about Bruce? What's his take on the PZers that refuse to hook up? 9 mil pointed at head time? (Hey, that's a good campaign question for Bruce.)

And if those 25 ol' Clives prevail, then what?: SOME PZ property owners don't have to pay, while MOST do? How's that supposed to work out?

I just have a hunch -- my worst case scenario prediction comes true: A $200 million sewer system that no one needs to hook up to, or pay for, because y'all will be rockin' modern composting toilet systems.

25 Ruby Ridges problem solved.

Also, this isn't my "suggestion," it's just simple statistics. Without even knowing this, I know this: Guaranteed -- ALL 5,000 PZ property owners are NOT going to voluntarily hook up.

Bell Curve, yo

Ron said...

As per my usual, "most typos I can live with, some, not so much" take: Considering I'm bragging about my awesome statistical prowess, I guess I should pop back in and correct my ".05-percent" above, to ".5-percent."

Out... yo.

Anonymous said...

Since Ronnie doesn't live in the PZ or even Los Osos, maybe he can convince Ann to be the first to refuse to connect. Maybe she can get the CSD to fund that law suit too.

Anonymous said...

Even though it clearly says on the chart at the foot of his hospital bed: "Do not allow to use a computer"--Ron crawled through an air conditioning duct to find a computer to post one of the dumbest, most delusional posts of his short and futile career.

Why?

Attention, any attention. He's happy to take your abuse.

It beats the alternative.

Why?

Because, for Ron, being stupid just isn't enough.

Churadogs said...

Ron sez: "Is Sheriff Parkinson REALLY going to start bashing down 80-year-old Harold and Mabel's doors, and point 9 mils at their heads, force them to the ground, wrap them up in shackles, and then drag them off to jail, while SLO County government rips their house away from them, and then sells it to the highest bidder, ALL because 80-year-old Harold and Mabel can't afford to hook up to a sewer, that they don't even need."

Answer: Naw, too Hollywood. Instead, RWQCB starts daily fines on the property,then quietly goes to court, foreclose on the property for non-payment of fines, etc, all done legally. Then the knock on the door will come quietly, the Tribune won't cover it (just another foreclosing for non-payment, etc, all legal, nothing to see here, move along) and Mr. & Mrs. 80-year-olds will be gently escorted off the property, locks changed, end of game.

And as for who would care? Answer: Nobody.

Ron said...

Ann writes:

"Then the knock on the door will come quietly..."

What happens if Harold and Mabel don't answer the door? (Hint: See above scenario.)

Ann writes:

"... the Tribune won't cover it... "

Well, of course the worse-than-nothing Trib won't cover it -- of course -- but a story involving the State tossing 80-year-old Harold and Mabel in jail, and then ripping their house away, simple because 80-year-old Harold and Mabel opted for the composting toilet route -- which is, by the way, THE most environmental way to go in Los Osos... BY FAR -- over a super-expensive industrial, "energy hog" sewer system?

Well, knowing journalism the way I know journalism, trust me, SOMEONE would cover that amazing story. It just won't be the worse-than-nothing Trib.

And THEN here come our Boyz from Camp T-Wi. ; -)

Wanna see an interesting Google search?

6-story office building Seattle "composting toilets"

... and read up on the wonderful Bullitt Center, "The Greenest Office Building In The World."

"The only building over four stories to rely exclusively on composting toilets."

In downtown Seattle!

And, ya know, I've been thinking about my .5-percent/25 properties guestimate from above, and, upon further review, that number seems awfully low to me.

Say it's closer to 2-percent. Well, that's 100 properties.

Now, if I'm a property owner in The PZ, with every intention of shelling out fat bucks to hook up to the sewer-hook-up thingee that the county built out in front of my property, but I'm also looking around at some 100 other properties in town that are refusing to hook up, hey, I gotta tell ya, I'm sitting on the sidelines UNTIL I see how that resolves.

I mean, if I shell out $5-Gs to hook up, and THEN those 100 pool together some sort of legal effort, and go on to win some sort of case that allows them to use composting toilets, and then get out of the assessment with a simple "no benefit, no assessment" argument, I'm SO pissed!

Ann writes:

"And as for who would care? Answer: Nobody."

That's not accurate. I would care.

Sewertoons AKA Lynette Tornatzky said...

Just a quick question Ron: Since some of the houses in LO are small and the bathrooms are tiny, would you have to put the composting toilet in the living/dining room or somehow pay to knock out your bathroom wall to accommodate the thing, providing of course your bathroom isn't on the edge of your 25' lot?

Churadogs said...

Toonces: I went to a "green fair" and the composting toilets there were surprisingly small. Would fit into a "normal" bathroom.

Churadogs said...

Ron: it's entirely possible that there may be some folks in Los Osos who will do what you describe, if they enjoy spending years tangled in RWQCB paperwork and "trials" and hearings, and court actions. If so, good luck to 'em.

Anonymous said...

'specially if they can get the LOCSD to fund the defense.

Ron said...

'tooncie asks:

"Just a quick question Ron: Since some of the houses in LO are small and the bathrooms are tiny, would you have to put the composting toilet in the living/dining room..."

Well, that's the beauty of "property rights," yo.

If you want to put your composting toilet in your dining room, hey, it's your property.

If you want to put your dining room table in your bathroom today, nothin's stoppin' ya. Last I checked, it's still a free country. Knock yourself out.

Ann writes:

"Ron: it's entirely possible that there may be some folks in Los Osos who will do what you describe..."

More than "entirely possible."

Like I show above, the Bell Curve guarantees it.

Ann writes:

"... if they enjoy spending years tangled in RWQCB paperwork and "trials" and hearings, and court actions. If so, good luck to 'em."

Well, again, since they'd be telling Jeff and Co. to, "Take your needless sewer and cram it," I'm guessing they wouldn't even be showing up to ANY "trials" and hearings, and court actions.

I mean, why would they even care? They're all rockin' kick-ass composting toilet systems, you know, to improve "Water Quality."

So, again, is Sheriff Parkinson REALLY going to kick down 80-year-old Harold and Mabel's door, point a 9 mil at their heads, shackle 'em on up, and drag them off to jail, while Bruce and Co. sell their house to the highest bidder, simply because ol' Harry and Mabs decided to do the environmentally correct thing, and go the composting toilet route?

The more I type on this subject, the more I'm convinced that my prediction (starting seven years ago) comes true: A $200 million sewer system in Los Osos, that no one needs to hook up to, or pay for, because y'all will be rockin' composting toilet systems.

Ron said...

Wanna see another interesting Google search?:

"santa margarita lake" "composting toilets"

You know who's using composting toilets today? SLO County "gummint."

Also, let's not forget, as I first exposed back in 2007, Jeff and his pals on the RWQCB actually tossed around the idea of "requiring" "advanced" composting toilets in Los Osos.

Well, o.k., Jeff. Mission accomplished.

Sewertoons AKA Lynette Tornatzky said...

Ann got it right, Ron: it's entirely possible that there may be some folks in Los Osos who will do what you describe, if they enjoy spending years tangled in RWQCB paperwork and "trials" and hearings, and court actions. If so, good luck to 'em.

I will also add, that I hope they have a very large bank account to be able to do so.

How many will WANT to clean out the residue of composting toilets? Hey! I just thought up a new job for Ron, as he certainly hasn't been working too hard lately on that Pulitzer!

Anonymous said...

Ron Crawford is irresponsible.

He's telling people in e-mails that (1) it's okay to not pay your sewer tax because the project is "illegal" and (2) that having a composting toilet will somehow negate having to pay for the sewer. Not a lot of people read his blog, but they see his e-mails. They see his spin, and people believe in it.

I sent his comments to County Public Works and they referred to his views as "junk science." John Diodati says that believing in Crawford's gibberish can very well result in a lien on your home. If you don't pay the bill, you're going to have a bad time, period.

This guy is discredited all across SLO County. The ultimate rebuttal to his work is that the sewer in LO is here. No matter how often he's chewed on Pandora's ankles or harangued the water board for this, that and the other thing, the sewer is here. It's legal. People assessed themselves for it. It's a done deal.

Anonymous said...

I hate to say the obvious, but noone else has. Composting toilets or not, any wastewater that leaves our homes is dirty. Whether it is from our washing machines, dishwashers or showers, it is polluting. At one time, we connected our shower drain to flush our master bath toilet. What a mistake! Sloughed off skin cells plus chemicals caused an unholy mess. Ron has no clue, as usual.delh

Anonymous said...

Where else can you go, any time night or day, to find mentally ill people arguing with other mentally ill people but here. Thank you, Ronald Reagan, and thank you, Ann, for providing an activity for those who might otherwise be talking to the TV and tearing the hair out of dolls heads... one hair at a time.

Ron said...

Oh, my soul hath been warmed, and, from all people, an anonaloser.

An anonaloser writes:

"Ron Crawford is irresponsible.

He's telling people in e-mails that (1) it's okay to not pay your sewer tax because the project is "illegal" and (2) that having a composting toilet will somehow negate having to pay for the sewer. Not a lot of people read his blog, but they see his e-mails.
"

IF those emails are going out, they're not coming from me (I'm waaaay too lazy to launch into some, uh... how does Pandora put it?... ah yes, "serious letter writing campaign"), which means my Homeys on the far right side of the above-mentioned Bell Curve got wind of my tight, tight comments here, and are now circulating them 'round town... on their own.

BEAUTIFUL! Here's why:

'tooncy writes:

"Hey! I just thought up a new job for Ron, as he certainly hasn't been working too hard lately on that Pulitzer!"

THAT's why.

See, my buds on the P-litzer selection committee are already familiar with how I've gone 2-for-2 with my New Times cover stories -- my 2000 cover story first exposed that building a 70-acre "ponding" system in the middle of Los Osos was a complete disaster, and then, BOOM!, Los Osos will now never have a 70-acre ponding system in the middle of town, and THEN my 2004 cover story first exposed that building a 7-acre, industrial sewer plant/"picnic area" in the middle of Los Osos was ALSO a complete disaster, and then, BOOM!, Los Osos will now never have a 7-acre, industrial sewer plant/"picnic area" in the middle of town.

So, when I roll up on 'em again, four years after my first history-making submission, and show them that I just went 3-for-f-ing-3 -- and there's a $200 million sewer system in Los Osos that no one needs to hook up to, 'cause y'all are rockin' composting toilets, just like I predicted (time-stamped... seven years ago) well, my Boyz and Girlz at the P-litzers are going to be blown away! Hell, I'm already freeing up some space on my mantle.

So, HELLYEAH... you brave souls on the right side of that Bell Curve, PLEASE circulate my super-tight comments all ya want. I'm on your side, yo. (For my own completely selfish reasons, of course).

An anonaloser also writes:

"I sent his comments to County Public Works and they referred to his views as "junk science.""

Well, IF that happened (and, considering the source... eh), then that's GREAT news (for me, at least).

If the County wants to think that the Bell Curve is "junk science," and that 100-percent of PZers are gladly going to plop down $5-Gs to hook up to the sewer-hook-up-thingee that the County built in front of their properties, then, like I say, that's AWESOME news (for me).

Keep on a-building, guys.

What's next? The treatment facility? Well? Whadaya waiting for? Build, baby, build!

Anonymous said...

Hey Ron, guess what? I've contacted the Pulitzer board and asked if they received any submissions from you. They haven't. In fact, your don't even qualify for Pulitzer submission guidelines because your New Times cover stories from 2000 and 2004 are not current. Also, unsubstantiated blog rants and conspiracy theories don't make the cut.

Call me anonaloser all you want, but your work consistently fails the smell test by every objective standard. What you're doing is fraud. You're telling people information that is patently false. You've been rebutted by a lot of people who have better things to do than to have some ranting jackass from Santa Margarita who harasses the County and Morro Bay Recs & Park departments every time Pandora Nash-Karner's name is uttered.

Have another drink, Ron.

Anonymous said...

Increase his dosage. Then the voltage. Then "Do not resuscitate".

Churadogs said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hate to say the obvious, but noone else has. Composting toilets or not, any wastewater that leaves our homes is dirty. Whether it is from our washing machines, dishwashers or showers, it is polluting. At one time, we connected our shower drain to flush our master bath toilet. What a mistake! Sloughed off skin cells plus chemicals caused an unholy mess. Ron has no clue, as usual.delh

Anon/Anon, true, true. But the state has figured out guidelines to do grey-water properly, but it does take some effort, $$ and maintenance. (Never heard of running shower drain to toilet tank; see where you could run into trouble, soap scum, hair, uh, not a good idea.)The only drawback to greywater is density. If everyone in Los Osos did greywater, even properly, we'd still end up with a pollution problem caused by density and basin load.Same old, same old.


Anonymouss sez: "
Ron Crawford is irresponsible.

He's telling people in e-mails that (1) it's okay to not pay your sewer tax because the project is "illegal" and (2) that having a composting toilet will somehow negate having to pay for the sewer. Not a lot of people read his blog, but they see his e-mails. They see his spin, and people believe in it."

Ron's sending emails to the community? Really? Who's reading these non-existent emails?

As an academic exercise, it would be interesting if someone has the time and money to become a Composter and install a compost toilet then hire a lawyer to challenge the assessment on account of the fact that he/she's receiving no benefit from the "sewer" portion of the assessment. Technically, their argument would be valid, (no blackwater, no violation of 83-13) but I'm sure the state would just counter that the "benefit" they are receiving is "cleaner water," to which they could counter that they're paying for that "cleaner water" via their water bills, which is entirely separate from their property tax assessment for a "sewer collections system/plant," and so we'd still end up back in square one with a lawsuit that would rival Dicken's Jardyce v Jardyce. And you can bet the minute the RWQCB got wind of a Composter on the loose, they'd quick like a bunny change the "discharge" rules. They'd have to do it carefully so as to not run athwart the state's greywater rules, but they're past masters of making sure words mean exactly what they say it should mean, neither more or less.

Anonymouse 8:53 sez: "Where else can you go, any time night or day, to find mentally ill people arguing with other mentally ill people but here. Thank you, Ronald Reagan, and thank you, Ann, for providing an activity for those who might otherwise be talking to the TV and tearing the hair out of dolls heads... one hair at a time."

You're welcome! See what fun this blog comment section is? What's always been a puzzle to me is the raging foam-at-the-mouth fury it causes in a small number of posters, some of whom may be the same poster pretending to be someone else so they can yell some more, like they think what's written here is "real," is some kind of threat to them, which triggers their fear which generates their rage and off they go into the weeds.

Instead of having a great time, they end up with high blood pressure and a headache. Very odd.


Ron said...

An anonaloser writes:

"Hey Ron, guess what? I've contacted the Pulitzer board and asked if they received any submissions from you."

Welp, then why did they cash my $50 dollar check? And why do I have an email from their administrative staff that reads, "O.K. you're in!" (WITH an exclamation point)?

The same anonaloser writes:

"Call me anonaloser all you want, but your work consistently fails the smell test by every objective standard."

Do me favor, anonaloser, run down to the middle of Los Osos and lemme know if you see either 1) a 70-acre ponding system, or 2) someone "picnicking" in a sewer plant?

Now, has that for an "objective standard" for just how kick-ass my reporting is, yo?

Ann writes:

"See what fun this blog comment section is?"

SO damn fun. : -)

Anonymous said...

This is great. So Ron, you're telling me that you're taking credit for the 2005 recall, decisions made by the Los Osos TAC, and decisions made by County Public Works that determined those factors?

What a piece of work! How can anyone take your ridiculous narcissism seriously?

So you're saying that Bev and Bill Moylan, Linde Owen and Ben DiFatta just made up "non-existent" emails you sent around to the community with links to your blog rants and statements claiming that they don't have to pay for the sewer portion of their property taxes? Really? That's hilarious in a sad, sad way.

You're spreading misinformation and giving people false hope. The reason some people still go to the BOS meetings every Tuesday is because they believe in your bullshit.

I want to thank the guy who said this on here. I think it was Billy Dunne who called what you do "sewer birtherism." You don't accept the truth as its presented to you, and you repeat the assertions as if they were never considered or tested objectively. You speak over people instead of listening to them correct you, and that's rude.

I remember when Richard LeGros used to refer Ann and Ron as "mentally ill." Turns out he was right, and I owe him a beer at the Merrymaker.

Sewertoons AKA Lynette Tornatzky said...

I know Ron has had communication with the Moylans anyway as he was there for them in Small Claims court the day they tried his absurd scheme to get their first assessment monies back. Boy, that was shut down fast. Another Ron "idea" debunked by the real world.

Sewertoons AKA Lynette Tornatzky said...

Oh, and on the picnics at Tri-W? Guess that would be fine because we'd all be paying $30 million less for a sewer.

Ron said...

Oh, for the love of Pete.

Look, as much as I'd LOVE to continue to discuss my favorite subject (me), and how super-tight, and 100-percent accurate my kick-ass (and time-stamped) reporting's been on Los Osos over the past 15 years, how 'bout I just fall back to my usual bet: I've got a case of Heineken that says that 100-percent of PZers do NOT gladly plop down $5-Gs to hook up to the sewer. (Any takers? anonaloser? How 'bout you? You could be buying ME beer. Cool, huh?)

And, WHEN I win that bet, then what? (Well, besides me drinking free beer while I prepare my SECOND Pulitzer entry.)

Again, hint: See above scenario.

Anonymous said...

No thanks, Ron. It's no fun taking beer from a baby.

Sewertoons AKA Lynette Tornatzky said...

Delusional again I see.