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Sunday, January 07, 2007

CLARIFICATION of the January 5, 07 Tribune Viewpoint, (previous post)


PZLDF Clarification:
Prohibition Zone Legal Defense Fund (PZLDF) was organized to support those faced with enforcement in Los Osos. Membership cuts across the “political factions” and represents ALL 5000 faced with eventual enforcement actions. The issue IS property rights and regulatory abuse, and has NOTHING to do with which version of a project is favored, or how one votes. NO, the abuse of civil rights is not appropriate even if you think Los Osos, or the individual deserves it. Supporting civil rights is NOT about agreeing with the particular issue, but not allowing anyones rights to be violated.

PZLDF supported those faced with hearings and also worked to broker a settlement for others. PZLDF did NOT take a stand against enforcement in general, but the misapplied and misrepresented enforcement orders that are designed for industry and government agencies. The use of the water boards own progressive enforcement guidelines indicates a community-wide work plan is a better tool. The greatest concern is the trampling of citizens rights, and unintended consequences the enforcement puts in motion. The enforcement undermines the Blakeslee Bill, and the County’s ability to succeed in delivering a new project, and the mission of the water board. It further divides the community, and that should be a huge concern to everyone who favors a project in the foreseeable future, and an end to the madness in Los Osos.

Gail McPherson
Prohibition Zone Legal Defense Fund
534-1913

31 comments:

Beware said...

How do we know that anything McPherson says is correct? After all, we were told that there would be NO fines, No CDOs, would NOT lose the low interest loan, and would NOT be sued by contractors. Prop "B" would insure that none of these problems would happen. McPherson was a strong proponent of stopping the sewer, never seeing the unintended consequences.

Get legal advice, not political advice. In light of history, this woman has been dead wrong and cost the community a fortune.

Anonymous said...

Beware beware.. Everything Mcpherson says is reality. And you may be next in want of PZLDF help. Please donate to PZLDF I have and all should.. The water board hates us you can see how they abuse us at each turn. We just want an affordable, sustainable sewer out of town..Anyone in thier right mind would stop a sole source 50% overbid (146 million) Sludge producing sewer 40 feet high in the center of town at the gateway to Montana de Oro, with a sweet little tot lot next to the factory and a proposed amphitheatre too. Jeesh!!!!

Anonymous said...

Gail McPherson is an ex-con who's lied about many, many things. Her opinion is contradictory to what she truly thinks and feels.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 9:47 AM:

I cannot believe that the "Sludge Factory" mentality is still being promoted. But then again, I guess you obstructionists will play that tape loop over and over. You fooled a lot of old people with that, but what you said was not true. You can review sites using the MBR technology within urban settings, all over California. These are not "Sludge Factories". These are semi-underground, air-lock MBR technology, that can handle the effluent of a community, and hardly be noticed. Some of them have parks, gardens, etc., on top, and are virtually undetectable. Your scare tactics are nothing more than that- tactics. And, if you have begun to believe them, you are believing the lie perpetuated by the money-land-power faction, that wants YOUR property, for $.10 on the dollar.

All along, the obstructionists have accused the "Let's get the damned thing built!" people of being backed by big land developers, but the exact opposite is true.

All on the backs of the simple citizens, those who believed the well-orchestrated crap, those who bought the line of baloney given by the two queen-bees (now second-rate queen bees, maybe now "Princess-bees??) to the constituents with the help of imported professional agitators. (Definition of Professional Agitator: hired goons whose previous jobs were to collect "protection" from small business owners. Evolved into political muscle who, with the help of local fanatics, bombard the villages with propaganda of whatever sort they are paid to promote.)
The land developers have perpetuated this fraud on the citizens of Los Osos, and have ground progress to a complete halt. Hoping for procrastination from the County of San Luis Obispo, they hope the State will step in, and declare the entire PZ unfit for habitation. At that point, a property owner won't be able to GIVE their property away.

Then, the developers, (and the locals are not the only ones, just the tip of the iceberg) will come in, all benevolent, and buy up properties for very little (just enough to make the sellers thankful they got out from under)
then they will bulldoze the dumps and low-rent places, build a fancy schmancy sewer, and then build some really big ticket places.

Places that urban baby-boomers who are sick and tired of the air quality, crime, vandalism, traffic, etc., of the city will welcome. AND, at a price. And within a day's drive of family who may still be ecking out a living in the Big Ashtray Down-South.

Coastal land is at such a premium, that there was only 6 inches of coastline for each resident of California, and that was back in 1960. Imagine what it is today.

Yes, Los Osos will end up becoming the next Carmel. Every natural wonder of the area will be exploited, but not in the "Disneyland" frame of mind. It will be exploited as the high-end, knock-your-socks-off priced phenomenon.
This place will be the spa-holistic healing, medical rejuvenation, defy-your-age, get-a-body-lift, live forever place.

Aha! I think we will have our tax base, to support public services!!!

Anonymous said...

Concerning the "above" anon. YOU need to get the real facts & forget the "spin". The Tri W facility was no little semi underground facility. It had a 40foot "wave wall" & what the "dreamers" called "amenities", was just a JOKE. By the way, Los Osos is HARDLY CRIME FREE. Just look at all the WELL DOCUMENTED VANDALISM, due in LARGE PART to that ugly ass skateboard park. The punks that go there are from out of the area & don't even wear the mandatory "protective gear". There have been enough reports to the Sheriffs Dept. to shut the damn thing down. Thanks Jan Di Leo,Pandora Nash-Karner & Teri Benko...You got what YOU wanted while the rest of us suffer the consequences of the juvenile delinquents that hang out there.

Anonymous said...

The skate park is a sparrow fart when compared to the crap experienced by residents in metropolitan areas.

Vandalism?? Come ON. Not hardly. And, your interpretation of the 40 foot wave wall is flawed, at best. You do not know what the hell you are talking about. There were elevation drawings in the CSD office that showed that the "Wave Wall" would be, in actuality, lower than the damned community center.

Forty foot wave wall?? That is forty foot total. Most of it, below the surface of the ground between the facility, and Los Osos Valley Road!!

So, get your facts straight, Anony-mouse 5:32, because you are completely FULL OF IT.

Anonymous said...

While Anonymous 5:32 PM is concentrating on skate park problems, and pointing the finger of blame at locals, he is completely obvlious of certain things posted by anonymous 4:40 PM.

This posting gives a whole new perspective on what is happening.

This gives all of us, something to think about.

Anonymous said...

How often will trucks travel through town carrying loads of this sludge, and where will they take it? How much will this transport/disposal add on to our sewer bill? How much is this cost likely to increase over time as diesel and disposal costs increase?

Anonymous said...

Dear Anon 5:32~ the generalization that only juvenile delinquents hang out at the skate park is odd at best. My children go there, the neighbor kids go over there, I've seen parents skating with their children and so on....why would we want to shut something down that is actually fun for the family and neighborhood kids? I'm glad it's there and not hidden anywhere because then we can supervise and there is less chance of any development of an onsite drug culture developing. Drugs are always a possiblity but when the places where kids hang out is visible and watched, it's just not as likely. Especially, at that park where there is an attendant supervising.

I think the county did a fine job and I appreciate it. Shutting it down isn't a solution and padding is optional. The only required gear is a helmet. Our children wear wrist guards and knee pads but what they say they really need is a good butt pad - of course, that would look ridiculous.

Most of the vandalism that I see is the tagging under South Bay Blvd in the tunnel to the Middle School - thankfully, it gets painted over quickly. We all have to keep our eyes on and pay attention.

And anon 5:48, I agree.

Sincerely,
Maria M. Kelly

Sewertoons said...

The part of the "wave wall" that stuck out of the ground was 14 feet.

Churadogs said...

Anonymous said:"Yes, Los Osos will end up becoming the next Carmel. Every natural wonder of the area will be exploited, but not in the "Disneyland" frame of mind. It will be exploited as the high-end, knock-your-socks-off priced phenomenon.
This place will be the spa-holistic healing, medical rejuvenation, defy-your-age, get-a-body-lift, live forever place."

the irony, of course, will be that the service folks required to make such a high-end place run will not be able to afford to live here and will either have to commute long distances or it will become simply impossible to get "service" help of any kind. Whichf would tend to make this place unlivable, unless we start buiding slave quarters or something (said half in jest for the humor-impaired readers of this blog)

There goes Anon again:"Gail McPherson is an ex-con who's lied about many, many things. Her opinion is contradictory to what she truly thinks and feels."

An ex-con???? Oh, plueeeze. Wouldn't it be more productive to fess up to what your real motive for such postings are? Personal vendetta? Obsession? What? There are so many hidden agendas at work here, from a variety of people who simply don't have the courage of their convictions or are honest enough to support what they believe or want or even state what that is. Instead, we have all these taggers and sappers sneaking around with anonymous "truths" and "facts" that are nothing more than lies intended to mislead and confuse. Why?

I hate to tell some of you folks, but the train has left the station and standing on the tracks and throwing rocks at the rails and each other is a complete waste of time. Worse, it keeps focus off where that train is headed.

For that reason, everyone really needs to carry around about 50 pounds of salt when dealing with all things sewerish. And maintain a good sense of humor and appreciation for all the hysterical hyperbole -- goons? thugs? chicago mobsters. Bwa-hahahah. Wonderful, theatrical stuff! Where's Sean Connery when we need him!

Hell Freezing Over said...

Ann:

So do you deny the reported facts about Gail McPherson? Theatrical stuff? Is not your stuff good theatrical stuff?

And where is the train headed? Looks like the "polar express" to me.

Anonymous said...

Isn't an "ex-con" someone who has been in prison and has been released from prison?

Anonymous said...

How much was that fine she paid? I heard $40,000. That's a pretty stiff fine for a simple mistake.

Churadogs, you have glossed over Gail's legal difficulties, but never once have you come out and explained them. Why are you hidding behind a closed mind? Does the truth hurt?

Anonymous said...

In response to Maria Kelly, You obviously are NOT AWARE of the grafitti that took place at local churches, schools & private businesses. I personally have NEVER seen young children at that skateboard park. I usually see "punks" & gang bangers in their late teens & early 20's getting out of their vehicles to harass people at the skate park. The vandalism must STOP & if it means closing the skate park, so be it. More complaints have been received by the Sheriffs station.

Anonymous said...

I have seen plenty of young kids at the skateboard park and can't recall any of them with spray paint cans in their hands. Please report any harrassment and gang activites as soon as you see them occur. You might come to the LOCSD Board meetings if you want to see real harassment, particularly from the gang in the back of the room.

The vandalism is no more prevalent today than was happening 5 years ago. We are just more aware of it thanks to our news media.

Anonymous said...

Dear anon 12:32~ Please tell me how the those incidences correlate to the skate park? I am very aware of vandalism and was saddened by it. You know what scares me more? The meth labs that are operating and because they operate out here because there is little to no ability to trace dumping of their highly toxic residue down household drains into septic tanks and ultimately our drinking water supply. You know what bothers me even more? The fact that meth doesn't limit itself to kids at skate parks but is running rampant in homes with no socio economic preferance. So you can manage your concerns and see where your efforts lead, and I'll be managing my concerns and over time our community will agree that we have all sorts of issues and no one holds the golden key. Collectively we can support a healthy, concerned, compassionate community.
Sincerely,
Maria M. Kelly

Anonymous said...

Anon. at 1:09, I beg to differ with you, but times have CHANGED over the last 5 years & there is MUCH more vandalism & crime NOW than 5 years ago. Parents need to be more aware of their children's "activities".

Anonymous said...

Anon at 4:46, I certainly agree we need to be more aware of our children's activities, but we also don't need to blame all the children for the crimes of a few.

Anonymous said...

Ann sez: Gail an ex-con???? Oh, plueeeze. Wouldn't it be more productive to fess up to what your real motive for such postings are? Personal vendetta? Obsession? What? There are so many hidden agendas at work here, from a variety of people who simply don't have the courage of their convictions or are honest enough to support what they believe or want or even state what that is. Instead, we have all these taggers and sappers sneaking around with anonymous "truths" and "facts" that are nothing more than lies intended to mislead and confuse. Why?"

It has nothing to do with vendettas, obsessions or hidden agendas. You can't get that through your thick skull, which is why you keep repeating it, obviously. The facts about Gail have been out there for quite a while. Are you saying you've never seen them? Duh! They are documents, not lies intended to mislead and confuse, as you claim. They are truths meant to lead out of darkness and enlighten the oppressed. Those with the courage to post about Gail are the true town patriots and dedicated leaders of tomorrow, facing slander from the likes of you and your keeper. I hope they perservere.

As for me, personally, I could care less about her past. Her past only becomes alarming when compared to her present, and you realize it's the same person now as then -- lying, defrauding, manipulating for personal gain -- only worse, now a more virulent strain, for having gotten away with so much for so long.

That you live in denial of Gail's insanity means you can't be reached any more than she can. You're become a clear, tired, mournful illustration of the old adage, "If you lie down with dogs you get fleas." And, boy, you've got a big one there!

Ann, who were you before Gail came into your life? Tell us about yourself back then, before Gail, you know, killed all our hopes and dreams...and left us with fines, CDOs and AB2701 instead. She hasn't done one thing that hasn't backfired on the community. It's either stupidity or corruption -- pick one, Ann.

My motive for posting? Simple. We have seconds left on the clock to save the town from going to hell because of McPherson -- and the ONLY POSSIBLE CHANCE WE HAVE LEFT AS A COMMUNITY, FOR COMMUNITY, IS TO SHED THE WORST PART OF US.

In the Army we used to have an expression about troublemakers in the platoon: "One bad apple spoils the bunch," Captain said, and he was right. We had our own way of dealing with bad apples. We had to, for the good of the platoon. It was a matter of life and death in a foxhole back then.

And it's a matter of life or death in a sewer trench today.

Semper Fidelis

Anonymous said...

To our most recent anonymous...

I have read the documents you refer to... all of them not just the select few you quote from.

You need to hear the whole story to get an idea of the injustice that was done to Gail... it is outright dishonest the version of the story you have put out here... you are a pitiful man.

And to further question your credibility... what kind of Army soldier declares "Semper Fi"??

Anonymous said...

"You need to hear the whole story to get an idea of the injustice that was done to Gail... it is outright dishonest the version of the story you have put out there...!"

You obviously didn't read my entire post. I could care less about her past.

What I "put out there" is no "version," nor is it dishonest. I'm sorry you can't deal with who she is. That's not my fault. Find someone to hold your hand. You seem to need a babysitter...like Gail.

What do you know about credibility when you speak for those who have none?

Churadogs said...

Anonymous sez:"Ann, who were you before Gail came into your life? Tell us about yourself back then, before Gail, you know, killed all our hopes and dreams...and left us with fines, CDOs and AB2701 instead. She hasn't done one thing that hasn't backfired on the community. It's either stupidity or corruption -- pick one, Ann."

Hyperbole alert! Yikes, Gail killed all our hopes and dreams., OH MY GAWD! Oh, pluuueeeze. As for "where was I before Gail came into my life?" You need to do your homework. Go to the Bay News Office and ask to review their archived newspapers papers, do the same for the Sun Bulletin, starting with 1991. Read every column I've written on the Sewer. Then you tell me "where I was" and just what issues I was raising looonnnnggg before Gail move to Los Osos. Sorry, Anonymous, but your hyperbole's getting awaya from you.

Anonymous said...

Ann sez: "It's either stupidity or corruption -- pick one, Ann."

Still waiting, Ann...

No hyperbole here, Just Truth. Sorry you dodge and divert, swoon and pluuuueeeze. It's a legitimate, non-hyperbolic question to everybpody in LO except you. How long can you play The Ostrich in the Loam? I guess forever.

Churadogs said...

Anonymous sez:"My motive for posting? Simple. We have seconds left on the clock to save the town from going to hell because of McPherson -- and the ONLY POSSIBLE CHANCE WE HAVE LEFT AS A COMMUNITY, FOR COMMUNITY, IS TO SHED THE WORST PART OF US."

" . . . seconds left on the clock to save the town from going to hell because of McPherson . . . ."

I love it! That's almost as much fun as my jokey "OH MY GAWD, WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE INNA STREETS LIKE DAWGS!"

Here's another Anonymous howler: "That you live in denial of Gail's insanity means you can't be reached any more than she can."

Bwa-hahaha. That's good stuff. But credible? Naw. Lotta fun, though.

Anonymous said...

3 daze later Ann wakes up from deep freeze and sez at 6:00 AM, January 12, 2007:

"That's good stuff. But credible? Naw. Lotta fun, though."

OK, Ann, what's your definition of credible, please? In the meantime, go up on Trib site thread "LOS OSOS SEWER BLOG REMOVED!" and see Eve1's "rapsheet" of Gail's record. Page back 20-30 pages, it's all there, at least that which is historicalized and most easily accessible. There's a shitload more.

You accuse LeGros and Dreamers of this and that, but then you defend the most corrupt individual in town by a long stretch (pun intended) who controls the stupid CSD! It doesn't make visible, tangible sense. Unless you're a criminal too, a racist, a defrauder, perjurer -- or it's just a Love Thang.

P.S. While you're up on the Trib blog check out passionate defense of Gail from one "SourceofRain." Amazingly almost persuasive. If it's not Gail herself, it's someone better...

Churadogs said...

Anonymous sez:"You accuse LeGros and Dreamers of this and that, but then you defend the most corrupt individual in town by a long stretch (pun intended) who controls the stupid CSD! It doesn't make visible, tangible sense. Unless you're a criminal too, a racist, a defrauder, perjurer -- or it's just a Love Thang."

Wait, didn't you forget to also include that I am suppose to also be "insane?" Jeesh, gotta get your list of baseless accusations straight.

Sewertoons said...

It would be fun Ann, if just once you answered the main point on which you are questioned. In this case the post above states:

"You accuse LeGros and Dreamers of this and that, but then you defend the most corrupt individual in town by a long stretch (pun intended) who controls the stupid CSD!"

How do you answer this point?

Anonymous said...

Ann can't answer. She's been brainwashed and can't think for herself. She's giving out false information and can't answer the real questions. Maybe she's just lived in Los Osos too long, and everyone knows there's something in the water that makes LO people nuts................

Churadogs said...

Sewertoons sez,""You accuse LeGros and Dreamers of this and that, but then you defend the most corrupt individual in town by a long stretch (pun intended) who controls the stupid CSD!"

How do you answer this point?"

I have "accused" LeGros of making really, really bad decisions as an elected official. And you'll need to be specific as to what I am supposed to be accusing "dreamers" of; "this and that" doesn't go anywhere.

Plus, it's not clear to me what your problem is? McPherson needs no "defending" by me or anyone else. I gather that you have a quarrel with her, that's YOUR quarrel. Are you angry at me for not jumping on your bandwagon to champion YOUR quarrel? That's your business; it's YOUR quarrel.

I also see no evidence that McPherson "controls the CSD." What evidence do you have to make that claim I've been at many meetings when McPherson's urged the Board to do thus and so and the Board either does nothing or does something else.

Anonymous rages and looney-toon hyperbole don't get traction because most people know it's, well, just raging and hyperbole. "Most corrupt individual in town . . ." That kind of stuff causes me to roll my eyes and say, Oh, C'mon . . .

Anonymous said...

Ann,

this kind of stuff causes you to roll your eys and say, Oh, C'mon...

You have responsibility Ann. You have a column and blog. You should take this more seriously, or you, yourself will cause many to lose their homes. Shame on you for not investigating things for yourself and just defending Gail no matter what.