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Friday, January 19, 2007

Press Release

The following press release is from PZLDF (Prohibition Zone Legal Defense Fund)

PETITION FOR REVIEW OF ACTIONS
BY THE CENTRAL COAST REGIONAL WATER QUALITY CONTROL BOARD FILED
January 16, 2006: 14 of the 45 residents and property owners in Los Osos targeted for enforcement filed a petition for the State water Resources Control Board to review the actions of the Central Coast Regional Water Quality Control Board. (RWQCB)The appeal is brought on behalf of all individual property owners and residents of Los Osos who have been, or will be, subject to the issuance of individual Cease and Desist Orders, or who oppose the issuance of CDO’s. Representation is by Sullivan and Associates. The appeal and the first step in contesting the “lottery style” enforcement actions taken by the Regional Water Board. Petitioners include designated parties who were issued Cease and Desist Orders at the December 14 and 15 hearings before the RWQCB. Named in the appeal is Rhian Gulassa, Alan and Jacqueline Martyn, Christopher D. Allebe, Edwin and June Ingan, Laurie McCombs, Julie Miller, Cinthia T. Coleman, Lawrence Kleiger, Clint Koch, and anonymous CDO recipient 1040. The petition is also brought by the Prohibition Zone Legal Defense Fund (PZLDF) on behalf of individual and entities targeted in the future, including the Los Osos CSD, who is a designated party in the proceeding. Petitioners also include at least five more designated parties who had “agreed” to settle, based upon misrepresentations or who were under duress and entered into a “settlement agreement” at the December hearings. They since learned the settlement is actually a Clean up and Abatement Order-(CAO), and could lead to $5000 per day in fines if the project does not move forward.
The Los Osos septic systems are county permitted, and functioning as they should, but do not remove nitrates. Nitrates can affect drinking water over time. The petitioners contend the water board is abusing their authority in this unprecedented action against individual citizens using regulations meant for government agencies and industry. Application of these regulations to individuals violates citizens rights, property owners cannot possibly comply with the terms, and could lose their homes if a collection and treatment facility is not available for them to hook up to by 2011.


The orders, along with reporting requirements, mean property owners must pump and inspect septic tanks. Most, if not all have met this requirement, and are paying a sewer assessment bill. The concern is they must stop discharging and hook up to a sewer, but what if a sewer is not available? Petitioners contend that government agencies build Wastewater Treatment projects, not individuals. They cannot accept responsibility for something an individual cannot control.


It took the water board nearly a year to hear just 4 cases, but the Regional Water Board expects to issue similar orders on all 5000 properties in the near future. “That isn't a cost effective or prudent use of taxpayer’s funds” according to Gail McPherson, spokesperson for PZLDF “Experts testified at the hearing that the enforcement requirements had no water quality benefits whatsoever. No one is against complying with the terms of the CDO, and petitioners have voluntarily complied with the requirements that are within their control. Individual enforcement in this form does noting for cleaning water, and undermines confidence in the Blakeslee bill and the county process to deliver the needed project. The issue of enforcement orders coercing a 218 vote ought to be a valid concern.”
The petitioners are requesting the SWRCB to "dismiss all enforcement actions and vacate all rulings, orders and CDO, CAO, and stop the RWQCB from pursuing further enforcement against individuals." The SWRCB petitions are usually resolved without an evidentiary hearing, and often the State Water Board will hold a workshop to discuss the matter. In this case the petitioners have requested an evidentiary hearing if the actions are not dismissed.
In the meantime, hearings resume for at least four more of the original 45 Los Osos property owners on Monday January 22, 2007 at 1:00 PM.895 Aerovista Place, Suite 101, San Luis Obispo. The public is encouraged to attend.

Donations to the Prohibition Zone Legal Defense Fund (Checks to PZLDF) can be made at Coast Bank or mailed to P.O Box 6095 Los Osos Ca 93412
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for additional information on enforcement:
http://www.waterboards.ca.gov
SWRCB office of Chief Counsel
Dolores White dwhite@waterboards.ca.gov
916.341.5159
RWQCB Prosecution Staff
Matt Thompson: 805.549-3159 mthompson@waterboards.ca.gov

35 comments:

Anonymous said...

More wonderful smoke being puffed to try concealing the deliberate obstruction and delay to the planned Tri-W WWTF.

We all allowed the CSD to halt construction of the permitted and funded WWTF. Only through the over emotional ego's and personal agenda of Schicker, Tacker and McPherson did the CSD perform to it's promise to halt the sewer at all costs! These 3 ought to be tried as criminals for the economic damage they have brought to the community of Los Osos.

The CSD is BANKRUPT! The County of San Luis Obispo is now planning the WWTF and collection system.

The CDO, or CAO would NOT be necessary had we not stopped work on the very LEGAL sewer system!

Wake up and back the County and the RWQCB!

Anonymous said...

Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! to anon @ 8:27:

The county has to be watched very carefully. They already are lying to the community and are pulling a fast one with the 218 and advisory votes in the wrong order.

They'll give us a phoney 218 vote (and scare everyone to death to vote yes no matter what) and then the advisory which is probably our Measure B vote.

What they aren't telling people is that homes in the so-called PZ will have to pay even more than they thought. The mobile homes and the homes on community systems pay a lot less because their benefit is a lot less. The major part of the sewer bill will fall on fewer homes not the 4,500.

The county better look at alternatives like Orenco because they haven't so far. They say they are looking at alternatives. What alternatiaves??? Does anyone know?? Or are they just looking at the mega monster super sized TRI-W???
I think most know the answer!

You want us to back the county and RWQCB, hey, both NEVER had a septic management plan all these years. They cared nothing about pollution or they would have had this many years ago.

You wake up! We are awake!

Anonymous said...

Obviously you believe McPherson and are emotionally charged to continue the fight. I wish you the best of luck.

Install your composting toilets and cap off your septic tank. At least you will stop your discharge pollution. It might be a little expensive to prove you have stopped your discharge, but isn't that why we have Gail to stand up to all authority in this rural outpost.

The CSD was sucessful also, oh, I've heard they couldn't prove any of their claims and are now bankrupt. Maybe all in the PZ will go bankrupt with the continuation of battling every authority. Great going Lost Osos!

Anonymous said...

Ann,

With the recall election you got your wish to fight the State on the issues surrounding the PZ and the authority of the RWQCB to regulate and enforce law.

So tell me, how's the fight going? Not too well, huh?

To date pursuing all your "issues" has resulted in nothing but disasterous results........
A bankrupt CSD with no power to pursue any issues, the County taking over the sewer project, multi-million dollar fines, enforcement actions by the State, wasted attorney fees spent pursuing loser complaints, continuation of the pollution of our water supply, the spector of having to import water to survive, and the certainty that the monthly costs of thes ewer will be much higher than if we had just built at Tri-W.

Has the fight been worth it?

Anonymous said...

Here is the main point...

"Petitioners contend that government agencies build Wastewater Treatment projects, not individuals. They cannot accept responsibility for something an individual cannot control."

Anonymous said...

Weren't we as individuals doing everything to support our government agency, the LOCSD?

We showed we didn't want a sewer when we voted for the recal and by damn, our government stopped that sewer. The End, we don't want any sewer in Los Osos.

Anonymous said...

Sorry anon 1:19 above, but the citizens of Los Osos ARE the CSD...and the fact that the citizens stopped the project via the recall has resulted in the CDO's and abatement orders.

The RWQCB at this point has no choice but to enforce the law by going after the polluers...YOU and the other citizens in the PZ.

You will not win this fight against the State. I suggest you support the County in building whatever sewer they can as quickly as they can. As for the cost, you will pay far more than you had to if you had just built at Tri-W.

Bestr of luck. You'll need it.

Anonymous said...

Cleath says inspect & repair of Septics won't improve water quality.

Why exactly were Ann & company asking for Septic Tank management all these years? and now they quote him as proof the RWQCB is bad.

Anonymous said...

Let the county pay for the sewer, they gave a permit for the septic system on my house. The CSD was right, no one can prove my tank is creating any problem. It's all a big government lie, we're on the best filter in the country. Any bay pollution is from all the cows up Chorro Creek or the power plant.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 2:03PM,

I thought you people said Los Osos septics were polluting ground water and the bay? Can't make up your mind?

Are you saying that we aren't polluting now? And therefore it's okay that the RWQCB and county didn't do the septic management plan?

If septics are polluting as the Dreamers say, then wouldn't they want to identify septics that may not be working and fix them?

No, sir, it's not about pollution. Never was. It's a land grab planned, oh, way back with 83-13, with a PHONY PZ line that protected some important people who didn't want to pay for a sewer. These same people want to clear the riff-raff out of town too! Gee, all this with one mega public works project. Wow. Very clever, I must say. But morally, very wrong. And what comes around goes around. Are Pandora, LeGros, Stan, etc. happy people? I think not. Things will get worse for them as time goes by.

Now the county (with all the help of Mr. Blakeslee) will force a mega public works project onto just a few thousand homes to pay.

I had heard that the State Water Board was going to use septics in the state to eminent domain. Well, guess Los Osos is the real test for them. If it works here they can do it all over the state.
Isn't that nice? Lovely people!

Anonymous said...

Who's Sullivan and Associates?

Anonymous said...

Anon 2:03,

DOES ANYONE HAVE TO PROVE THAT THE RWQCB IS BAD? YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING.

THEY ARE EVIL, CORRUPT, CRIMINALS, UNETHICAL, TERRORISTS and more....

Anonymous said...

Sullivan & Associates is the law firm working with the CDO group. It's Shawna Sullivan. I believe. She's a bit expensive for a Los Osos attorney, and a bit expensive for the CDO's. We'll see what she does with the appeal and if she'll stick around and lower her rates so the CDO's can take the case to a real court of law.

If there's a class action suit against the RWQCB, the RWQCB won't stand up too well with the civil rights violations.

Anonymous said...

I love reading all your posts. According to Ann, and McPherson, and others, they say with conviction that the poeple of Los Osos know they need and want a sewer. Here's a sampling from McPherson:

"Several polls have shown the vast majority of LO residents want a community sewer system and will vote for a new project assessment under the County and Blakeslee plan."

Reading all your posts confirms my belief that that just ain't so. Move the sewer has always been no sewer.

Anonymous said...

Julie has always said there was no way that damn sewer was going to go in the middle of our town. There's a whole bunch of us to sue the state and the county for violating our rights to not have that smelly, ugly, huge sewer in the middle of our town. Jeff Edwards has a good plan for the town area. We don't need a sewer in the middle of that expensive land.

Anonymous said...

Thousands of hours and thousands of dollars spent so far and still no real trial with an impartial judge and jury. The Waterboards needs proper checks and balances if they are going to prosecute individuals.

The RWQCB is not above the law, but it is such a long, expensive, and frustrating journey to a fair trial, most individuals will not last for the duration. That is what the board was counting on. If they win in Los Osos, everyone with a septic tank in the state will be at risk.

Anonymous said...

To anon above,

You are right. No checks and balances with the RWQCB.

When they give CDO's it's meant for business that have legal counsel -- not for individual homeowners that have to legal defense dollars to fight against the fines.

People should call the FBI and complain of Abuse of Power and the Secretary of State should be contacted for electioneering.

Yes, the RWQCB depends on the homeowners not to have the money to fight them and to try to beat the people down till they die from the stress. Some have. More will.

Anonymous said...

Could someone explain what is going on with Julie Tacker. She acted like a spoiled child and stomped out of the meeting again Thursday. Is she bored with doing the job she was elected to do?

Churadogs said...

Anonymous sez:"Weren't we as individuals doing everything to support our government agency, the LOCSD?

We showed we didn't want a sewer when we voted for the recal and by damn, our government stopped that sewer. The End, we don't want any sewer in Los Osos."

That's an interesting take. The recall to me was all about two things: (1) getting a cheaper sewer system and (2) moving the sewer processing plant out of the center of town, NOT "we don't want any sewer in Los Osos." I also suspect there was a third element at work: (3) Let us choose which plan we want to buy and let us vote on it. I consistently heard all three issues repeatedly raised way before the word "recall" raised it's head.

Anonymous sez:"Ann,

With the recall election you got your wish to fight the State on the issues surrounding the PZ and the authority of the RWQCB to regulate and enforce law."

Wrong again. My "wish" for years was that the Process be followed correctly, that the regulators do their jobs properly, that the citizens stay awake enough to make sure they were in the loop. Had anyone been paying attention to my written "wishes" for Lo, these many years, this train wreck would not have happened.

The PZ was never scientifically defensible, it was politically expedient. Big difference. The RWQCB had plenty of opportunities to fix that issue over th eyars but didn't. Big mistake #1. They NOW have a chance to fix this (and in doing so prepware the way for AB885 and other broaded water issues) Will they take this opportunity to fix this now or just stick wastefully and stubbornly with what was always a scientifically indefensible line on a map? That's the choice the county and the RWQCB must make, not me.

another Anonymous sez:"oh, I've heard they couldn't prove any of their claims and are now bankrupt."

. . . "I've heard they couldn't prove any of their claims. . ." HEARD? Thus do some Los Ososians get their "facts," I guess.

another Anonymous sez:"
"Several polls have shown the vast majority of LO residents want a community sewer system and will vote for a new project assessment under the County and Blakeslee plan."

Reading all your posts confirms my belief that that just ain't so. Move the sewer has always been no sewer."

First off, I'm betting mcPherson's opinion on this is right, though we'll only know for sure when the County presents its plan for a 218 vote.

However, it's incorrect to confuse "move the sewer" with "no sewer." That's simply NOT what "the community" believes. The recall candidates who were elected ran on a platform of MOVE the sewer, not NO SEWER. The original Blakeslee Compromise was all about MOVING the sewer, folks came to the microphones during that critical October CSD meeting and almost to a person said they weren't married to Tri W, if the compromise plan can work, let's get on with it, etc. only a tiny handful said No sewer. And, Heck, in their own documents, the RWQCB states that the majority of Los Ososians want a wastewater project. Are you now saying that the RWQCB also has that wrong? Please, everyone, don't confuse a tiny handful of people who anonymously post here with "the community." and don't confuse "move" with "NO," and don't confuse protecting citizens legal rights vis a vis the CDOs with anti-sewer. They're entirely seperate issues. The Los osos 45 that I've spoken with or heard testify all, to a person, state they're in favor of a wastewater treatment system, plan to vote on the county's plan & etc.even as they're are fighting to protect their legal rights and surviving a year of hellish harassment inflicted on them by this Board for no reason except harassment and coercion or electioneering. and, I might add, enduring some truly nasty, totally false comments from some brave "anonymous" posters here on this site.

Anonymous sez:"Here is the main point...

"Petitioners contend that government agencies build Wastewater Treatment projects, not individuals. They cannot accept responsibility for something an individual cannot control."

To this I would add, when the RWQCB sets up a Hobson's Choice (no alternatives or remedies allowed except a sewewsystem which the individual cannot build on their own,i.e. choice at all) then not only can an individual NOT control anything, they are being asked to do the impossible, which, so far as I know, the law can't require anyone to do -- the impossible.

Reality Check said...

It seems to me that the state water board is a check on the RWQCB. The courts are also a check. If the RWQCB or the State board have overstepped their authority they will be repremanded and their wings clipped. On the CCRWQCB site are explainations for their actions and answers to defenses from their actions. I am sure the answers were not put up there without legal review. It comes down to the water law:

Either the water boards are correct or McPherson is correct. If it was clear that the defendents, listening to McPherson were correct, there would be plenty of lawyers willing to take the case on a contingency basis. After all, the state has plenty of money and is very kind to lawyers.

Anonymous said...

Ann, you pat yourself on the back much too much. For lo these long years you did not support the CSD until the recall. Had you penned your support with the zeal you spewed poison, perhaps a compromise solution would have been reached. But even that provides too much validation for your personal agenda. Ann, you do not have the power you seem to think you have.

You don't hve the technical knowledge of waste water treatment systems, you don't even have the political guts to have had seat on the CSD Board which had to make real life decisions. You have been unrealistic in your condemnation of the years of work to have reached the point of beginning construction. You threw what little influence you thought you had behind Lisa and Julie. Well Ann, look at what a wonderful job they and you have done. No Sewer, No Sewer Funding, a BANKRUPT CSD and between their actions and your cheerleading, we have forced the RWQCB to take the unprecidented CDO actions. It is the fault of everyone in this community that we have come to this point in time. It is not the RWQCB's fault, it is us, we plodded through the extremely difficult task of creating our own local government and then undermined it at every turn. Now we don't want to take responsibility for the damage we have done to ourselves. We set up the CSD and then we killed it. We knew the reaction we would cause by halting the sewer and compounded it by trying to change the way the State has been set up to enforce Clean Water Acts. We were just too stupid to think little Los Osos somehow could overturn years of law just because we didn't like where a waste water treatment plant was located.

Ann, do you really think the old boards simply chose Tri-W just to piss off this town? Did you ever recognize all the difficult decisions made to work with the governing agencies? Now we have had the recall Board for over a year and all they accomplished was the bankruptcy of the District. That certainly did not accomplish moving the sewer. They may have actually made the Tri-W site the only economically feasible site short of a mega site somewhere out of Los Osos.

No Ann, you have not helped, you have only been a puff in the wind, you and this blog will not change the State of California. Los Osos will not be seen as David vs. Golith, but more like a small bump in the road. The sewer will be built.

By the way, part of the reason some of us chose to remain Anonymous is directly related to the manner inwhich the Racano, Swanson and Martyn's have treated us for not supporting their personal agenda's. But you have heard that before, you choose not to write anything about the actions of those individuals.

Anonymous said...

The majority of this community got involved in the "re-call", not only because a sewer plant at the Tri-W location was the WRONG LOCATION for a plant, but also because with the MEGA PROJECT the recalled Board members & PANDORA NASH KARNER supported was simply too expensive. Not only was it too expensive in terms of just "building it" but it was WAY TOO EXPENSIVE TO OPERATE, thereby, with the mega expense, many of our citizens would be FORCED OUT OF THEIR HOMES. Now, while that may not be you or me, I STILL BELIEVE that we ARE our brothers keepers. This community has been divided between the "haves" (Taxpayer Watch Members & Dreamers) & "have Nots" for FAR TOO LONG. That's sad.

Anonymous said...

A Dreamer is someone who believes the Tri-W site and WWYF was a "MEGA PROJECT".

Do you think that moving the sewer plant outside will be smaller and less costly to build and operate?

Did our CSD BOD have a plan before they bankrupted the District or was that their Plan?

Face it, the sewer project was always too complex for the CSD to have tried to do. The County should have built it 30 years ago. If we have any fight, it is with the County, but even that is too little, too late. Now we can support the County to keep costs down or continue the fight until none of us can afford to live here.

You still seem to be worried about Pandora and the Tax Payers Watch when you should have worried about the financial pit the CSD BOD was digging with their legal crusade.

Anonymous said...

Ann,

The original Blakeslee compromise was not about moving the sewer really. If you notice the documents from the State Water Board, they wanted a 218 in Feb. '06 and wanted to get rid of Measure B AND agree not to sue the State Water Board! There was a lot of stuff there. The loan was for a specific project and site. Wasn't it?? What's your take on that Ann?

Anonymous said...

To All:

These polls that Mrs. McPherson wrote about in the Tribune viewpoint:

Who exactly conducted these polls? How many homeowners were polled? What were the specific results? How were these polls conducted? Phone? When were these polls done?

How would anyone that was polled be able to know what kind of 218/assessment it would be and/or how much it would cost them?..or how much they were willing to vote to be taxed and assessed for?

What were the questions exactly for these polls? Were these people polled saying yes to a blank check??

Can Ann find out any answers from Mrs. McPherson since she knows and writes about these polls. I for one, would be very interested to get information about this. Anyone know??

Anonymous said...

From Anon 9;49: "Not only was it too expensive in terms of just "building it" but it was WAY TOO EXPENSIVE TO OPERATE, thereby, with the mega expense, many of our citizens would be FORCED OUT OF THEIR HOMES."

Oh how very sad it will be when you see the cost of a project now. When that time comes, will you apologige for forcing EVEN MORE of your brothers and sisters out of their homes with your obstrucionist and stalling tactics?

Anonymous said...

Reality check:

Yes, the RWQCB does report to the State Water Board, and yes, they do have many lawyers to go over everything. Who do you think is instructing the RWQCB on what to do to Los Osos?! It's the State Water board and their many corrupt attorneys (paid to break the law!)

Let me remind you that a real court of law could very well come down on the RWQCB. There is just no lawyer for the people of Los Osos to hold up his hand and say "STOP! YOU'RE BREAKING THE LAW!" to the RWQCB.

No money, no lawyer, NO JUSTICE!

Of course, that's what the State and Regional Board rely on, Los Osos homeowners not to have the kind of money to fight them in court.

You say, "lawyers lining up to take the case on contingency" YEAH, RIGHT!

First of all, you don't know what you're talking about.

Second, lawyers don't want to go up against the state BECAUSE they have so many lawyers and the state can tie a case up in court forever. Besides, there's really no money to collect from the state for incentive for them to take the case. Many attorneys wouldn't want to go up against the state. The state is almost sue proof anyway.

Third, the bottom line is that the State and Regional Water board can break the law all they want, over and over again, we just have no legal representation and no justice!

Anonymous said...

You people offer nothing new as far as the situation Los Osos finds itself in today, except for your paranoid conspiracy theories that completey absolve Los Osos of any responsibility in this mess. That has alaways been the major problem here. Screw up after screw up after screw up, yet it's always someone else's fault. No doubt the most despised "community" in the county, maybe the state, and it's always everyone else's fault. Pathetic.

Anonymous said...

The more my family has considered the Petition asking for a Review of the RWQCB actions, the more we like the idea. It is about time some authority beyond the CSD and PZ turned over the stones. This town has made such a mess out of the concept of local government, that a real government agency or court, with authority to knock heads and toss corrupt politicians in a real prison, should come into town and kick someones butt. It's time to put up or shut up!

Anonymous said...

Dear Pathetic Anon @ 2:38PM,

Yes, there's many at fault. Yes, laws are being trampled on by the State and Regional Water Boards.

And yes, there are solutions. There is Dana Ripley. There is Orenco and more. It can be done. The county just has to follow through. They certainly have a staff to help.

There is no need for a supersized sewer that is not sustainable and won't help us for just 5,000 homes. Now, that's pathetic!

There are more problems with the TRI-W project to even name, and the costs involved with that kind of project are prohibitive to most homeowners.

There may be a few people that feel septics do the job and don't want a sewer, but most do want a wastewater project, want to proceed, and want to live a normal life again. All the county has to do is pick a good project with a good price tag. What's so hard about that?

It's funny how you want Los Osos to have "faith" in the county, yet you only speak of the original project. I thought the county promised to look at alternatives? You sure act like they aren't!

Anonymous said...

Ditto to what anon. above said. Why should any of us TRUST the COUNTY? For years, they have taken our property tax dollars & what do we have to show for it? We here in Los Osos have ALWAYS been treated like step children. A classic example of being overlooked by the COUNTY would be the condition of our STREETS. My house was purchased in 1987 (new)& in all that time, NOTHING has been done to these streets. All the streets in this commumity are the "pits". The county has come out from time to time to do a "PATCH JOB ON THE CHUCK HOLES", and that is the extent of what the COUNTY HAS GIVEN US. WHY TRUST THE COUNTY TO DO THE RIGHT THING? They wouldn't know the "right thing" if it jumped up & bit them in the butt.

Sewertoons said...

The streets are in sad shape because the sewer was going to go in - time after time. Why fix it when you are just going to dig it up again. Could someone please give a comparison with - Oh, I don't know - some other community - Shandon, Nipomo, Santa Magarita - do they all have better streets than we? Or are we the "especially neglected" ones?

Also, as has been asked many times, can someone give proof that a pond removes the nitrates to the level we must remove them in conditions similar to ours (same rainfall)?? Where it is located? Don't tell me Arcata 40" or Petaluma 25" (compared to Los Osos - 13").

Churadogs said...

Reality check sez:"It seems to me that the state water board is a check on the RWQCB."

Is the State Water Board a check? Or wolf overseeing the fox who's in charge of the chicken coop? In thing that will be intereting to see when (if?) the breach of contract lawsuit gets underway again, if it does, is to read the emails among RWQCB folk and SWB folk. The word "check" implies a neutrality. But if you're all in the same scrum together? And if you've been, uh, sloppy about writing a loan that's now gone south, and . . . what kind of "impartiality" now exists?

anonymous sez:"Had you penned your support with the zeal you spewed poison, perhaps a compromise solution would have been reached. But even that provides too much validation for your personal agenda. Ann, you do not have the power you seem to think you have."

You're muddling your point. First, you blame me for the failure of the compromise. Wrong. That was all doable, as I pointed out. But did anyone listen to me? Nope. Then you claim that I don't have the power that I seem to think I have. so which is it? Power over the CSD to sink a compromise plan or less power than I "seem" to think I have? I have repeatedly pointed out in this comment section that I learned years ago with School board, that nobody in this community pays the least attention to the questions I raise -- not about school board (which, if you remember, crashed and burned, wasting gazillions)and not about the sewer train wreck. If they had, the PUBLIC might have forced the CSD to get back on track and hence avoided this wreck.

anonymous also sez:"We set up the CSD and then we killed it. We knew the reaction we would cause by halting the sewer and compounded it by trying to change the way the State has been set up to enforce Clean Water Acts. We were just too stupid to think little Los Osos somehow could overturn years of law just because we didn't like where a waste water treatment plant was located."

WOA! I didn't take Measure B into court BEFORE THE ELECTION, thereby precipitating that disasterous settlement agreement, I didn't send emails to Briggs to "fine the CSD out of existence," I didn't support the dissolution of the CSD, thereby wasting more time and money, I didn't vote to start pounding gazillions into the ground weeks before the recall, indeed I emailed Mike Drake (remember him) and urged him (as a PR guy) to urge the Board to STOP what they were planning because I knew it would inflame the whole mess,and it was not I who urged the RWQCB to waste a whole year on these pointless CDOs, I did NONE of that. You're way off base here.

What I have said repeatedly is that this Process got off track early on and because the CSD and the people didn't make some vital adjustments to get it back on track, you're looking at the results. Tragically, the RWQCB and the State made certain choices that made the wreck far worse than it needed to be. THEY, not I, made those choices. THEY, not I, continue to still make these really bad choices. And a question for them remains: Why?

Churadogs said...

Anony sez:"The original Blakeslee compromise was not about moving the sewer really. If you notice the documents from the State Water Board, they wanted a 218 in Feb. '06 and wanted to get rid of Measure B AND agree not to sue the State Water Board!"

Wasn't that fascinating, that the State Water Board insisted there be a clause in the Blakeslee bill that would prevent the CSD from suing the State Water Board. Why? What had the Board done that would warrant such a clause? Or think they did or feared they may have done? Very strange.

anonymous sez:"Who exactly conducted these polls? How many homeowners were polled? What were the specific results? How were these polls conducted? Phone? When were these polls done?"

The only poll I know about was done back in the Age Of The Ponds Of Avalon, a "scientifically conducted official poll" that showed that the majority of those pollsed would be willing and able to pay about $75.00 a month for a sewer. After that the numbers fell off dramatically. Don't remember if the options to check off even went as high as $200 or more a month. somebody must have figured out that thte "majority" of people in Los Osos want a wastewater treatment system because even the RWQCB, for years, in their own documents have stated as much. Wonder where THEY got their info?

Anonymous said...

Ann,

Where did Gail get the info about these polls? Is she using this same info from the RWQCB? Gail made it seem that these (few -- more than two) polls were done recently!